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thank you. Hi, so good to see all of you old friends and and new. I just want to re acknowledge the the country. The place known as Australia comprises

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the traditional states of over 250 First Nation language groups. For nearly 50 years now Australians have increasingly formally recognized the importance of country and first nations, peoples, relationships and protocols for conducting business in country

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acknowledging country shows respect for the country and the first nation's continuing connections to Country Tasa and the Isa.

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2,023 World Congress. 2. Wish to

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which the cultural protocols to be known to all and observe the country

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we meet on in this world. Congress is called Narm. It is the home of the coolant nation. We're we're in jing, Jiwa. We're along people.

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We invite session chairs to acknowledge their sovereignty, which I am and pay their respects to elders and ancestors

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by stating the acknowledgment of the country at the start of the session.

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And I just want to say, this is great. And

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for cultural sociology, which is what we do. I I just want to add, live. And I wonder, on the political economic level what percentage of people in Congress also are, first, what we call call in Canada, first nation people, and to and and

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and and what percentage of of the country is owned, or what other kinds of reparations have been presented or done, and I don't find this completely acknowledged

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in this. But I'm just adding that

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so again, welcome and oops did I? I would now introduce. We have a number of speakers too remote.

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What did I do there? I just

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Volker Kirchberg:  could I? Could. I just mentioned to.

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And what? Thank you. Thank you. Is that it? Is that right? So, okay, can you move it over?

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Volker Kirchberg: That's better.

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You.  okay. okay.

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you could have come up and get ready. I just want to be able to introduce you, or you'll introduce yourself with the, with the material. Just so we saved the time, this parking there for a second. And do we have the the list?

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Does anyone have a hard copy of the program with them

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you can choose from from her the title. You can probably find her here

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Okay. Malf, Irene Hagen, who has been with us

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Earlier in the in the Congress, and and other ones will present on sincere or cynical analyzing the public discourse on 4 controversial arts, projects in light of Irving Goffman.

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the mic is working. What about the slides?

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About the slides? I don't know.

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Is it? Did you set them up already. Yeah, does anybody know how to work the slides?

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Yesterday was a person that.

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Confex Tech Support: Rachel: so you need to share the screen again. we have to stop screen sharing for the virtual presenters.

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Okay, it's here. Just

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yes.

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yeah.

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Well, no. I introduced. I think. So. I just go on to the first slide. These are 4 cases that are. It has been heavenly.

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heavily criticized and debated in Norwegian areas.

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And it's an art exhibition. Some art projects an Art Declaration and a memorial monument.  here I see how the managing teams and artists in each class relate to the critique, and, like the goofman's theory on the presentational self, because these cases have many layers, and

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I only look at one woman in a way. but I'm running about it in a book

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more deeply.

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 In his book the Presentation of Self in Everyday Life, from 1,959, Cosmon, used as a dramaturgical, persistent to describe sociologically how people perform and communicate with each other.

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He compressed the 3 roles of the theater, an actor against another, and their audience into 2 rows of the in real life.

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a performer who plays together with another with other performance. You are also observers.

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Watchman tells that women in individual plays a part. It is expected that the observers shall take.

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and the impression he or she want to give seriously, and that matters are what they appear to be when the audience is convinced about the reality of what is presented. Only sociologists or so they are less satisfied with. Have any dogs a lot of performance.

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That's why I he's in

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the performer may also try to convince his or her audience

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only as a means to other ends, without any concern of the belief on the audience. In that case the performer may be called cynical.

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If the performer appears cynical, the observer may experience the performance as false. Warsman makes clear that the cruise of sociological consideration is merely that impressions foster in everyday performances.

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To this

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we will want to know what kind of impression on reality can chapter the force foster in rational reality, and what reality really is can be left for others. To study.

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Therefore, the task of the sociologist is to ask, what are the ways in which a given impression can be discredited?

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The role of the sociologist is not to prove whether a perform is true or false, but you reveal what is thoughtful about it.

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In socio-social organizations, performers often work together in a team to solve a common problem. For example, employees in a museum, members of an art council, members of our committees or employees in the National Department. The team develops a common definition of assist direction, and the members of the team must perform in accordance with the initiative. To maintain the credibility of the team.

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A team may be supplied with new members as well as all members may lead the team

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in the 4 cases presented here, the artists also become a member of the respectedatives as long as their corporation to solve their common task lost.

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If members of the team perform in a way that I work from the definition of a situation.

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this may disrupt the performance. For example, if members of a team give individual statements that a self-contradictory or contradictory States or other members, or if the statesman in to make reliable no large facts or common ethical standards.

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The Melbourne-garde Exhibition at the Mont We same in Austria in 2,015, was controversial, due to the explicit sexualized, violent and abusive content, in, namely, on Manga's exhibits of artworks, and particularly because several of his artists were based on photographs collected on Pedophilia magazines

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distributed by the pedestrian network. Nambla, the North American Man Boy Law Association, who works for legalizing sex between boys and men such as the number of routine and made in the U.S.A.

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The exhibition created a media storm where art historians are critic, for the like people were criticizing the exhibition, claiming that Nelson is flirting this, or promoting to the feeling of sexual abuse of children in his art.

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The artists tell in a TV program a newspaper that many of the photographs that he used is in his paintings come from numbers Nova Scotia. The artists say that he is fascinated by the photographs, and on TV he joked about using them, claiming that the children did not look abused at all. The photographs are also used commercially by the artists who tend in a TV program, who? Well, these paintings sell.

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In spite of the massive critique and the statements of the artist on using the number of photographs.

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the director of the non-commissioned exhibition, by claiming that the intention of the artist

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is to conduct social criticism of the sexualization of children into less society. The fact that the artists exploit the photographs commercially contradicts

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the assertion of the director. Several critics planned that the exhibition should have an edge limit, while the director kept claiming that artworks were important also for children, and

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similarly the correct or claim that the exhibition represent.

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There are social criticism raising important questions on sexuality, gender, and other issues

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between 20. The next case Wendy, Leon and Santi, and the Norwegian artist, Martin Tanovic, arranged a series of performative park projects in North Korea and Norway by using North Korean artists and physicians in public performance. In both countries

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the artist is controversial because his projects demand collaboration with the North Korean culture authorities, and of course art comes in. Norway has given big grants to the artists for this project.

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3.5 million Norwegian crown are in

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in 2,013 and 10.5 million in the 1,000, 901,000, 901,901, which means around 2 billion Australian dollars.

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I him only one to percent. Some of the

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in 2,011. Their artists arranged a concert in Pyongyang, where North Korea and music students were playing our house capable.

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In 22 to 12 the artist presented the pictorial game mealy at the very spectacular session of gifting as Northern Norway, where 256 person become living pixels to create images.

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I see in the North Korean Academy and Festivals. The performance was led by a North Korean annual, and in its first.

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in 2,013 he presented the art project, where he called Jess as a star festival at Runtime

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with foreign countries, together with a group of Norwegian youths that play

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a performance about life in North Korea and Norway. At the end of the performance the audience should walk, walk on which country was the best to grow. Often

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in 2,014.

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I'm sorry.

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In 2,014 the artist arranged a musical cardi-mong, Miyong at a Bergen international festival with Middle School students from North Korea based on a below Norwegian play for children.

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Admit that his North Korea projects have ironical undertones during the work in progress performance. He said that the performance appear as advanced madness because it is so over the top. He also said that the North Korean censorship authorities are no problem as long as you do not make crazy sketch about them.

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To the critics he said that I disagree with the hypocriticals. Not so for humanism, where everybody criticized North Korea.

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Seemingly the artist also neglect the repressing features of the North Korea lurid Shima described in several UN. Reports. Former prisoners in North Korea and concentration camps claim that the artist is a useful, useful idiot for the North Korean Rashima

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in in 2,013. The leader of the art comes in. Nova says that the artist was reported due to the freedom of expression and the Orkans's reason for giving the grant in 2,014 was that the artistic career of modern throat is both outstanding and challenging. He has developed an artistic practice that he calls hypertes.

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Yeah, I can't then read the whole thing. So you just have to move on because it's had. I have so much information

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in 2,010, and the art decoration of the Novi. That's a third case.

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The Norwegian artists on the suburb.

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4 monumental paintings were commissioned to decorate a lobby of Press Room of the Department of Health and Care Service and the Government building complex in Oslo. However, after the July 20Â s terror in 2,011, when 8 people were killed and 200 wounded in the terror attack against a government building. Employees experienced that the motives of the paintings remind them about the July's 30Â s terror.

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The paintings. They pick, white papers flying, a road, flying buildings, flying desks, and bureau with open drawers. People were lying on the groan and the skeleton. In respect of the employees, it was decided not to install the paintings in the department. The decision created a big media store where many art critics and artists engaged in the public debate

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claiming this meant art, censorship.

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The National Department of Art in public space was responsible for implementing the art decorations.

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and the the process demanded cooperation between the art committee

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by the department representatives of the Department of Health and the artist.

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and from the paintings were commissioned until they were implemented in their definition of the situation. The motives of the paintings depict scenes from all Norwegian theatres by refusing them. The Department disrupted the performance by signaling internal conflicts within the collaborating team.

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The director of Kuro said that so much see it as a line they are reading of July 20Â s. But it isn't.

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The artwork is typical for Vanessa Beard

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as such. I can't read it all. I'm sorry

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On July 2,011. One single terrorist attacked the Norwegian Gormans building complex in Austria. The bomb that killed 8. I said it already, and they also attacked the Labour Party's youth organisation somewhere camp at Utah Island, where he shot and killed 69 people and injured 66.

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At the end of 2,011 the Norwegian Government decided to create a memorial moment for each of the 2 Terracides

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an art competition was arranged, and the winner project created by the Swedish artist, Jonas Dalberg, was unknown since February, the twentieth 14.

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He is a monument for Utah Island, called Memory. Wound was shaped like a sharp 3 meter broadcut in the edge of the of a headland at the land side of the Utah.

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The name so 69 youths and adults who were killed at Utah was planned to be in grade in the after wall of the cut.

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while a room with a window where people can enter and look at the names on the older side of the curtain's plan to be installed

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in the land part of the moment. Most artists and orquitists were enthusiastic about the memory world at first.

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but soon it the winning. The proposal created greater assistance, particularly from neighbors at the land side of Utah. We were among the first to

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well entirely started to rescue youth swimming against the lands.

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There were 2 reasons for this. They were not included in the process of planning and implementing the monument, because many of them were traumatized. They also experienced a monument as an open wound that would remind them about the terror every day of the future in the future

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the the minister of Local government, who had the superior responsibility for the memorial order of psychiatric report to map potential and health consequences for the neighbor, and it concluded that I already suffer and will continue to suffer because of this. It was actually cancelled

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after many meetings, and so on. but not here

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the cooperating teams here, in the fall of 2,011, the First Art Committee was appointed to start planning the memorial monuments.

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And in so 13, the planning was handed over to, and a new Art Committee, who was also the union of the art Competition in light of Government art committees were teams cooperating to solve the same task until the memorial was implemented. The artist was also a member of the cooperating team.

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It shows up that there is a situation different. The first outcome myth here describe the task in positive terms.

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The community do not like to reinforce and extend the local identity connected to the cruel cruelties at Utah.

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Instead, I would like a meeting point that symbolized the engagement humanity and war that was mobilized in the dramatic taste of July

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2011. They also emphasized the importance of selecting a monument that would be comforting, positive, and forward, forward oriented.

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Their goal was that a memorial monument should be a place for silence, intimacy, and collectivity, a place to remember and honor the dead wounded with curious rescuers, pointing forward, a lifting, lifting of values, such as openness, law, and democracy, etc. Etc.

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 I can't really do. But I just. I'm going to the conclusion very very soon, because the second Art Committee.

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where tells a more negative terms to Norwegian T. That in Dolberg's proposal we see a confront in grass that relates to the cruelty at Utah. It makes a cut in the Norwegian nature blah blah blah, and it is a confronting aesthetics that respect

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to the experience of the brutality at. So they were kind of talking about this in a very negative way. The second part.

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and while the artists were talking about the loss. the the

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monument should should become a quite a crack.

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It should be difficult to grasp the beauty of the native. We don't experience the notional loss, so it he was not talking.

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By comparing the for the case, it it impers that in case 1, 2 and 4 contradictory and self-contradictory statements, but centered in the media by team members disrupt the performance of the teams.

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Case one and 2 are most similar due to the economical and personal profit in each of the 2 cases, in case one, the economical prophet of the artist and the museum, and the personal prophet of the director in Korea are appearing as social critics

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in case 2 Dec. An economical prophet of the artist and the personal prophet or members of the art concert appearing as defenders of the freedom of expression in case for the way the second Art Committee described a memory, one was contradictory to the discrepancy.

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Sorry description of the first Art Committee.

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the the CSIRO, economical or personal profit, may also make team members appear cynical. It may also have contributed to create or increase controversies around each case, and the resistance, in case 4 or the team may appear cynical for excluding the neighbors.

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Case 3. Diverse merch most among the 4 cases as team members, their performance inside of the team.

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cynical, as they seemingly had no economical or personal profit to gain.

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 analyzing and comparing the 4 cases in light of Goffman, show that when collaborating team members perform and give contradictory statements or statements that diverge from their definition of the situation, as well as of the definition of the situation is self-contradictory that disrupt their performance and contribute to shatter the impression of reality presented by the team.

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and they also see motivated by economical or personal profit. This make them appear cynical, and these factors may also contribute, probably to have created the critique and the controversy. And controversies and media events.

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thank you for listening. A very rather stressful presentation, I'm afraid, but it was so difficult to

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make it smaller. Yeah.

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thank you very much. We've decided to hold questions to the end, and maybe we can aggregate them. And and now we go to

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So it's a change. I can throw away my parka

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and Anna Lucia de Fertostacciera will speak on the interpretive challenge posed by the new peripheral literatures. The Brazilian case.

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Ana Lucia Teixeira: Okay, so you are listening to me, it's

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Ana Lucia Teixeira: the the only one that I can see. It's okay. So it's working.

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Ana Lucia Teixeira: Okay. So thank you very much. Good morning to everyone. Good morning, even to folk who is in the middle of

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Ana Lucia Teixeira: of the night. But it's going to be morning very soon. Here is 10 P. M.

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Ana Lucia Teixeira: we. It's it's to Tuesday, and I really would like to be there with you, and when I see you in the cameras, and I can hear your voices. I regret even more to it. Possibility to be there. I'm really sorry. Well, I'm I'm good directory to the, to the text, because time is very, very precious.

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Ana Lucia Teixeira: Well. as we all know, the nation is a category, and more than that, a problem of the nineteenth century

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Ana Lucia Teixeira: is at that moment, and not only in European territory.

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Ana Lucia Teixeira: it that it's meaning is dissociated from that of provides kingdom goods, corporations it needs to, and etc. Minutes to which it alluded to them.

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Ana Lucia Teixeira: The moderate sense of this category results from a competition of factors of various orders that are often mobilized also to formulate the notion of modernity.

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Ana Lucia Teixeira: so that we can assume that the Category Nation is there for a modern category.

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Ana Lucia Teixeira: Let us look at the different social layers from which it's constituted.

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Ana Lucia Teixeira: Firstly, it is sympathetic to the maturing of economic Liberalism. although from a theoretical point of view, Liberals did not have the conception of nation, and even its meaning

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Ana Lucia Teixeira: in the title of Adam Smith's work does not go beyond the sense of territoriality in practice, as hopesbound, points out, the liberal economy, benefits, and Liberals knew it from the existence. And now I'm quoting the existence of States with a monopoly of money, with public finance, and therefore with fiscal activities and policies.

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Ana Lucia Teixeira: This is the end of the quote from a political point of view. The nineteenth century also marks the confluence of meaning of the terms people and nation with the term State

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Ana Lucia Teixeira: Still with Hobbesbound, the nation was thus regarded as the body of citizens whose collective sovereignity constituted them as a state considered as its political expression. This is the end of the quote.

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Ana Lucia Teixeira: It is at that moment that the States would be taken as the political form of the nation, although, of course, it could not entirely recapture it everywhere, not even in Europe.

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Ana Lucia Teixeira: especially Eastern Europe of the nineteenth and the twentieth centuries, as Han hadn't pointed out when exploring the problems faced by stateless peoples and nations

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Ana Lucia Teixeira: from the point of view of culture which most directly interest. This is here the emergence of the nation, as the analytically effective category manifestes itself fundamentally through the development of a status attentive to the genuine and traditional themes and forms of peoples

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Ana Lucia Teixeira: explore the number of cases to demonstrate how the art world becomes involved in the development of the nation. The national issue.

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Ana Lucia Teixeira: So that and now I'm quoting a new theory of culture is formulated in a way that makes it possible to place the national as the creative principle of modernity. One.

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Ana Lucia Teixeira: This process involves a selective work of collecting in the past those who would be taken as the true ancestors, those who would have left a legacy by which one defines what should be considered national, what is proper of a people. The sub-statroom, whose exultation would give it autonomy and take it out of a regime of cultural submission.

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Ana Lucia Teixeira: In this movement I'm quoting Ts. Again, the ethnographic procedure appears then, as a Privileged Access route for the archaeology of the National and of the quote.

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Ana Lucia Teixeira: Here popular culture gains the strategic importance in the the limitation of what is proper of a given people.

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Ana Lucia Teixeira: The people by its primitive is, she says, is a living fossil that keeps to the core of modernity the spirit of the great ancestors. The end of the quotation

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Ana Lucia Teixeira: in the set of cultural expressions literature becomes the great vector of national genius of the Scottish genius. The Welsh genius, Bavarian genius, hell vest in genius, Tyrolean genius, and Brazil engineers as well

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Ana Lucia Teixeira: mit Ctl, and in this contest the valeration of the national language, or the national accent of shared language contaminates critically all European literature outside French, 150

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Ana Lucia Teixeira: in the specific case of Brazil. It's fundamental to point out, especially after modernism. I strong articulation between the literary canon, that privilege, the key of nationality, and the project of access to modernity that would occur through culture.

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Ana Lucia Teixeira: and the reaffirming the works that would constitute the cannon is carried out by different over Latin instance, sometimes in conflict, literary production, the visual arts, literary recruits and quizzes as well. historiography and sociology in the production of the readings of the so called interpretations of Brazil.

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Ana Lucia Teixeira: The points of interested in of my presentation is to highlight the role of literary criticism in the systematic and repeated affirmation of the nationality as a central attributed of the production of modernist literature in Brazil, one

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Ana Lucia Teixeira: mit Ctl. And among this critics the most important is, and outly Antonio Kennedy, who, in 1,959, published for Ma Som de Litratura Brazil. It's formation of the Brazilian researcher, one

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Ana Lucia Teixeira: considered by many to his. This work has a decisive impact on the definition of the canon, not only of the modernists, but of all previous movements

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Ana Lucia Teixeira: his methodological choices include the definition of what he called integrative criticis. That is, a proposition of a method structured in the dialectic dialected time between the formal elements of the text and it's historical sociological framework, without, however, considering that one can migrate to in

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Ana Lucia Teixeira: that one can migrate in a theoretical and mediated way from one instance to another in very brief terms, it's possible to say that develops a theoretical political project whose clear list claim is the right of a young people and a young country to have their own literature.

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Ana Lucia Teixeira: The fatality of the modernist project that soft

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Ana Lucia Teixeira: the to produce. genuinely national literature, woven from the threads of residue. Popular culture in the roof is reflected in the theoretical production of Canada as the search for the historical link between different moments works, authors who would have given their share to the construction of his theoretical entity. That is the Brazilian literature.

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Ana Lucia Teixeira: Of course there are nations that have and those that do not have, a production that deserve the qualification of literary. And this project hides us struggle

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Ana Lucia Teixeira: mit Ctl. And through our process of excavation of the production of Brazilian authors, it comes to the formulation of a properly national literature, and with that it is a firm, it to a country of few literates the right to possess not only a literature, but a narrow did 1 1

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Ana Lucia Teixeira: the affirmation of the terms, such as Brazilian and national, are configured as a total as as a totality which.

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Ana Lucia Teixeira: although internally heterogeneous, does not allow us to hear those voices which at this moment are crying to be heard. I'm talking about a literature, produce it in the outskirts of the large cities that cannot be thought of.

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Ana Lucia Teixeira: In isolation for movements of political participation, of wider interest which have given art in general, and literature in particular, the status of a vehicle from insertation into the political world. One.

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Ana Lucia Teixeira: We've captured it. Captive publics have been created, specialize it. Publishing houses responsible for the circulation of their publications, well established suites which serve as a space for the segmentation of a community that thinks of literature in a way that is necessarily connected to the politics

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Ana Lucia Teixeira: We are here before a movement that seeks to give legend, legitibility to a condition of violent inequality easily perceptible to those who cross the metropolis. It is.

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Ana Lucia Teixeira: It is an inequality that is perhaps easier to see than to read, but it finds in this artist a restless work of translation

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Ana Lucia Teixeira: in the theme of nationality, revealed, of a relation of external inequality established between cultures that possess literature and cultures that are denied this possibility, what peripheral literature bring us into focus our relations of internal inequality, especially visible in the metropolitan regions. One.

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Ana Lucia Teixeira: by highlighting this problem they eliminated another one the artificial homogeneity that may receive in the in the idea, or in the project of the national.

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Ana Lucia Teixeira: after all, by defending the national criterion as the defendant, the weakest poll.

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Ana Lucia Teixeira: instead of the nation. This literature will often contribute to the construction of groups coming from other clippings, the periphery, the neighborhood, the different spaces of exclusion. It seems interesting to me to consider that this type of culture movements helps to amalgamate the community in the terms that and Sierra thinks of the concept in politic

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Ana Lucia Teixeira: in this work, presents a conception of writing that. And I'm quoting before being the exercise of a competence. The act of writing is a way of occupying the sensible and given meaning to this occupation. This is the end of the the quotation.

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Ana Lucia Teixeira:  mit ctl, and it is the sensible that shapes the community, and therefore the act of writing is central to the construction of the community, and has an intrinsic political meaning. One

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Ana Lucia Teixeira: It shuffles the intended destination of the enunciate in Oct. Thus causing a theoretical disturbance. This theoretical disturbance of writing has here calls democracy.

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Ana Lucia Teixeira: The democracy is thus considered, not as a regime of government, but as a regime of writing a politically invested conception of writing

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Ana Lucia Teixeira: this way of conceiving writing, especially relevant to highlight the production of the Brazilian peripheries because it offers instruments to think of this artist also as agents of a social community whose works allows the insertion of part of the life of the periphery of the city, such as so Paulo.

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Ana Lucia Teixeira: on the space of the sensible. And this jester, apart from all the just political claims that they also make, is already in itself fundamentally political.

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Ana Lucia Teixeira: What we see there for is a commitment to a reversal of a historical game, of exclusions expressed in the possibilities of a reason to the literary level aspects of life that were previously uncognizable.

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Ana Lucia Teixeira: and that's in in that position. This implies a clear claim of this position at the level of artistic expression. Of course, the terms in which they struggle for the recognition of the literary production of a country like Brazil took place have changed since the middle of the last century.

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Ana Lucia Teixeira: Categories, like nation and nationality no longer seem to account for the elements that's stake, but the idea that the symbolic dimension is a space in dispute remains pertinent.

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Ana Lucia Teixeira: transform it over time, but continue to manifest themselves in terms of confrontation, stratification, and dispute. Thank you very much. Thank you for.

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Ana Lucia Teixeira: But listen to me. Thank you.

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because left being

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the leftist, politics ask for redistribution of wealth

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and other resources.

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So

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and significant change in more eco

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for more equal

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society. So there are.

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they are abstracted.

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and another one is religious and ethnic

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diversity.

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 the all these bands and obstructs

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counselling activities, limitations

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 guide. artists to be more homogeneous.

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ethnically and faithwise.

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we can call this as cultural colonization in and Iris Marion young terms. So There's there's the absence of recognition of diversity in the population.

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 Another access is gender.

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which includes women and

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 Lgbti gender, sexual orientation and gender identity with this, this, this, this, this category, can be identified

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in relation to merchant marginalization and powerlessness in an artist murdered young's

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yeah.

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Classification. Here are some examples. This Arnodon is a Kurdish singer.  actually she is

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singing in Kurdish

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good singer, but

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her concerts are banned

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 simply because she's singing in Kurdish.

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And a

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this other aspect is related to

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religious. She's not religious. If she was religious she would be Ok.

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Because she is not religious

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Kurdish. Only then she's not okay.

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 I feel one Parliamentarian made it very visible in the Parliament.

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The

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what she did in the Parliament is to sing

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every way that I can

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the

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a song by Certa Bernard. Actually she on Eurovision! And she sung this song and English in the Parliament.

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Now, she said, if she could.

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We can sing, she said, and then she sang.

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so this is a very good

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Protest!

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Another example is musician actually his brother, elder brother, who died

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in 2,005.

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They're very famous, and he was left wing, and he was combining his. The identity

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with this leftist

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 identity. He follows his brother's footsteps on his

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concerts

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as well, and cancelled.

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 but he said he would continue to sing

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the

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in the same way.

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and another example is groupurum.

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this. This is a.

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again.

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a group initially formed by university students.

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Their genre is influenced by the Latin American

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consume.

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I don't know if it is correct pronunciation

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moment. They combine folk music with

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left wing. Smalls are

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 teams.

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actually, in this picture they are singing for 2 Prisoners

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on hunger strike so

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their concerts are

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cancelled, and

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and then

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the band as well.

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this is So white Turk

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singer! But women rebel women. She was born in a conservative

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town, and

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adopted this surname Mosa. She she took a

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Michigan education. and it's a mythical term in Italian meaning, I think. Temple.

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 this is an adopted surname.

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and actually she uses her body a very.

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very much. This place your body

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and she's rebel. Her mother is hits, carved, etc. But she's she's

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she is a rebel women.

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a her her concerts recently

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cancelled, and

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and this council cancellations happen just a few days, a couple of days, or just one day before the performance, so it it becomes very

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difficult for these musicians.

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and after she keeps going her concert was cancelled in 2,020.

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But then she went on, and actually, while performing, she cut her here

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to

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support the

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Masa Amini. The protests in Iran

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 this year, her concerts cancelled as well. Another case, yes, 5Â min. Oh. this is is not the case.

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Actually, this was interesting because her New Year message in which she said, the ignorant event.

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Adam and some people this national survival movement targeted her.

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 I'll move onwards with this one. I think we can ask if this is kind of

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cultural hegemony or identity politics.

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And there was a discussion here about this, because

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we can say that. a.

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There was a culture established

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hegemonic culture, and it is changing towards more Islamic values. There is more homogenization

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towards that direction.

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 excellent.

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We can discuss this. Just briefly, I mentioned this and conclude, when it comes to once, we can refer to Johan Galton, because he claims that violence can be through exo commission and axle omission.

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The Exile Commission includes the prohibitions and bands of these activities artistic activities.

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and there can be also excel omission.

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I would like to include this one. During the

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pandemic

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the State is supported.

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the entire

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enterprises.

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for instance.

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minimum wage. In order to avoid companies

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firing people, they paid a minimum wage. They. They did so for the their artistic activities as well. But these artistic activities do not fit into the standard work and conditions.

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So In conclusion.

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arts and artistic activities didn't get any significant support from the State very, very minimal. And so many musicians committed suicide.

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and more than

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103 and one left this message, even though gods do not know there must be some campus. Someone's knowing that I'm hurt.

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Many musicians committed suicide.

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01:00:33.430 --> 01:00:37.990
actually, when come to this cultural, to Germany.

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There are these faces mentioned! Inhand tikili, this modernity, that the periodization is related to how modernity was practiced in Turkey

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the period after 1980 or educational modernity.

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I would definitely show this.

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In the beginning. Vancouver was established in 1,923. There was a radical modernity of full-scale standardization, rationalization, westernization, and

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and so on. So this was the presidential mention.

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And actually, I'll show the picture of Ankara.

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this park there is a park. It was designed for a public space, where people would discuss our walk up to the Parliament. The small building at the background as the Parliament.

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so they intend to develop democracy in Turkey.

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But the democracy was also.

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and build upon strong figures, 5 founding

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people, and there in the middle. This is the one on the left hand side is called Security

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Monument. On the left hand side there is the

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the industry, and on the right hand side there is the

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agriculture.

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and you can see the bodies, and how a nation is presented. It's like not to Germany.

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01:02:25.050 --> 01:02:28.229
Actually the artist was from Germany.

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but it was an authoritarian period, and we can see very many authoritarian practices while trying to modernize and implement modernity.

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And then we see the current

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compound. All the decisions are made there. It was a public space.

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It's called a tetrick's forest.

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the farmer.

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a public open to everybody but it. That part was

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appropriated, and presidential compound was built. So the State appropriated public

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space from people to the build this building.

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It's just kind of authoritarian

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develop. Once

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the

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we can see how many mosques there are, and how many schools there are in the table, and how much money spent

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for these institutions. Actually

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Thera directorate of religious affairs in the 1,900 twentys. When the Vancouver was established.

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01:03:41.150 --> 01:03:45.589
there was the diversity of all these different kinds of practices.

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and this Muslim religion was consolidated in this institution to create and control this diligent, but it became a huge institution.

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01:03:59.700 --> 01:04:01.490
sucking money from the

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and people on all other activities.

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01:04:06.330 --> 01:04:16.219
 Ok, there's also a neoliberal period created a lot of poor people.

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01:04:16.290 --> 01:04:23.850
dependent people. They are dependent on social help, and a lot of money goes to social health.

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01:04:23.910 --> 01:04:27.880
and one auto pike gets social help

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01:04:28.120 --> 01:04:30.440
in Turkey. So

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01:04:30.520 --> 01:04:35.709
this way, this is the way to create consent. Among people.

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01:04:36.150 --> 01:04:45.639
There are only very few rich people, and now shrinking middle classes and huge

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01:04:45.790 --> 01:04:48.610
the people living on power to line.

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01:04:48.730 --> 01:04:54.850
but getting social health and appreciating the Government so much because of the social help.

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01:04:55.350 --> 01:04:58.680
The break point was the schizophrenia.

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01:04:58.920 --> 01:05:05.940
In Gizzy Park. Young people gave a reaction to in 1,913, when

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01:05:06.040 --> 01:05:10.440
our upspring was there a reaction to

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01:05:10.710 --> 01:05:12.590
destruction of nature

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01:05:12.620 --> 01:05:17.739
in the middle of Istanbul? And this happened. What came out is

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create to it.

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01:05:19.720 --> 01:05:25.270
and a lot of singing, a lot of creativity, a lot of risklessness.

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01:05:25.290 --> 01:05:28.860
art. There represents a sorry

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01:05:29.930 --> 01:05:31.190
these things.

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01:05:31.420 --> 01:05:44.370
creativity, diversity, solidarity, equality, participation, and so on. So it created a lot of fear on the part of the government, and they are against creativity

541
01:05:45.230 --> 01:05:47.619
performed by these people.

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01:05:49.650 --> 01:05:50.460
Thank you.

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01:06:10.350 --> 01:06:14.130
Thank you for this very rich presentation.

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01:06:14.170 --> 01:06:22.640
Our next talk is by a perup of Patnia from the Kalinga Institute of Industrial Technology in India.

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01:06:22.890 --> 01:06:27.950
The title is Soft Power, a new race for democracies.

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01:07:03.540 --> 01:07:05.040
15 years.

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01:07:05.080 --> 01:07:14.669
The sessions closes. It's 20, and it's already in 1,943. So 2,015 and 15 in some discussion.

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01:07:15.260 --> 01:07:27.899
A very good morning to one in all present. Here I am, Upper Rupa at night from Kalinga Institute of Industrial Technology. and today I will be speaking about soft power, which is a new race for democracies.

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01:07:28.300 --> 01:07:34.020
First, I will give you an introduction, and then I will set India as an example.

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01:07:34.120 --> 01:07:37.820
and then I will give some facts and data and conclude

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01:07:38.330 --> 01:07:39.890
so to begin with.

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in the recent decade, the presence of Asian countries has become increasingly global and dominant. particularly Japan, Singapore, South Korea, and China.

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01:07:57.300 --> 01:08:04.370
But the question arises, are these Asian countries? Why and why are these countries are on the rise?

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01:08:04.510 --> 01:08:10.109
The answer lies in the soft power. To begin with, what is power

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01:08:10.400 --> 01:08:19.740
at the most general level powers, the ability to influence the behavior of others, or to get what one wants as an outcome.

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01:08:20.150 --> 01:08:26.950
There are several ways to affect the behavior of others. First, you can coerce them with threats.

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01:08:27.120 --> 01:08:33.119
Second, you can induce them with payments, and, third, you can attract or co-OP them.

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01:08:33.780 --> 01:08:45.070
The future of a country and its stand in the global platform mostly depends on how it utilizes both types of powers. That is the hard and the soft power.

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01:08:45.720 --> 01:08:48.800
I would like to speak about what is heart-powerful.

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01:08:49.690 --> 01:08:59.250
Hard power is when the country uses military and economic means which influence the behavior or interest of other political bodies.

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01:08:59.650 --> 01:09:10.610
It is a form of political power which is often aggressive in that it uses question. it is associated with specific, tangible resources.

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01:09:10.840 --> 01:09:13.299
But then there are some limitations.

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01:09:14.580 --> 01:09:23.130
First of all, it becomes ineffective when there is a deadlock between 2 nations, or if both holds equal power or status.

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01:09:23.310 --> 01:09:25.580
it aggravates the problem.

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01:09:26.660 --> 01:09:29.760
for as it results in an eye for an eye

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01:09:30.570 --> 01:09:34.580
coming to, and it becomes very difficult for the weaker states

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01:09:34.830 --> 01:09:47.800
coming to what is soft power. Soft power is defined as the ability to attract and co-opt instead of coercion, shaping the preferences of others through appeal and attraction.

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01:09:48.030 --> 01:09:53.390
It is grounded in intangible resources, like tourism, culture, and heritage.

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01:09:53.900 --> 01:09:58.850
Therefore the best way out is to have a middle part, and that is the smart power

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01:09:59.150 --> 01:10:02.840
which involves both hard and the soft power

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01:10:03.310 --> 01:10:07.289
it involves. Strategically applying diplomacy and persuasion.

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01:10:07.330 --> 01:10:16.489
This type project's power and influence in a very cost-effective manner to legitimize the political and social aspects.

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01:10:16.830 --> 01:10:31.229
The terminology soft power is coined by Joseph Nye in the late 1980 S. Which means it is the ability of a country to persuade others to do what it wants without force or question.

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01:10:32.380 --> 01:10:38.730
India is a country which uses mostly the smart power. For example.

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01:10:38.880 --> 01:10:54.569
the world has been experiencing various issues like non-state cross-order terrorism. India and Pakistan bottles, are effectively, militarily guarded in the border areas. But efforts, like Katar per corridor are always used.

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01:10:55.050 --> 01:11:06.519
India's current foreign policy is based on the concept of smart power. This means using both heart and the soft power at particular times which suits the national integrity.

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01:11:06.930 --> 01:11:12.439
Democracies, like India and the Us. Can dominate others, but

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01:11:12.550 --> 01:11:22.390
it has excelled in projecting its soft power with the help of their companies, foundations, universities, and temples.

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01:11:23.220 --> 01:11:26.850
churches, and other institutions of civil society.

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01:11:27.610 --> 01:11:33.230
its culture, ideals, and values have been extraordinarily important.

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01:11:34.140 --> 01:11:53.169
Talking about India, which is world's largest democracy, has been a point of attraction for the world throughout history, from being called the Golden Bird to present as a land of spiritualism, architectural marvel, and cultural heritage in different forms of art and music.

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01:11:53.330 --> 01:12:02.870
from the Buddhist middle path to Catalia's pragmatic political form. From Gandhi's political strategy of Satyagra and non-violence.

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01:12:04.740 --> 01:12:07.760
India has a vast population

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01:12:08.980 --> 01:12:19.740
with the largest youth component, a dimension which the policymakers try to convert into an advanced added advantage by equipping them with contemporary

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01:12:19.920 --> 01:12:36.550
skills, with greater emphasis on such areas of learning as artificial intelligence, big data, machine learning and optimal expansion of digital application and practices to keep pace with the changing landscape of knowledge.

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01:12:36.870 --> 01:12:41.840
education, and educational institutions also play a very important role.

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01:12:42.840 --> 01:12:45.419
The culture of the country, its political

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01:12:45.450 --> 01:12:49.640
perspectives and institution mechanism is basically

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01:12:49.720 --> 01:12:52.710
transmitted to the next generation through education.

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01:12:53.290 --> 01:13:03.350
the new education policy, 2020 of India, and with ages a holistic educational system based on Indian identity and called global outlook.

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01:13:03.430 --> 01:13:07.800
It emphasizes India's cultural and civilization of

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01:13:07.860 --> 01:13:13.670
values to ensure a required dose of confidence for young citizens.

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01:13:13.820 --> 01:13:22.869
With the vision of transforming India into an equitable and vibrant Knowledge society. it provides a roadmap

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01:13:22.990 --> 01:13:41.460
about how to develop a deep sense of respect among the children towards national culture, fundamental duties and constitutional values, with necessary awareness and understanding towards the changing globe, with scenario and responsibilities as a global citizen

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01:13:42.450 --> 01:13:47.280
education as synonymous with human resource

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01:13:47.550 --> 01:13:57.880
in the changing syndrome of global power, the strength on the battlefield is fast replaced by the power of knowledge and skills in laboratories.

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01:13:58.170 --> 01:14:05.480
Thus the power of a nation is now determined by the power of its human resources and capacity building

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01:14:06.750 --> 01:14:23.220
the major contemporary challenge, like climate change, terrorism, fundamentalism, and such health crisis as the pandemic underway can be dealt with only by cooperative coalition of nations with shared interest and building cooperation

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01:14:23.780 --> 01:14:27.360
in such a scenario a soft power strategy

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for fostering positive youth outcomes, including the work for success, social and health behavior and education has grown. International youth development programs has also successfully been running which promote the soft power.

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01:14:45.520 --> 01:14:48.169
A nation's positive soft power

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01:14:48.410 --> 01:14:59.579
perceptions allow it to promote itself as a place for people to visit, invest in and build a reputation for the quality of goods and services.

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01:14:59.840 --> 01:15:11.289
It also allows a country to rise in the esteem of its neighbors, markets and resources and compose the face it presence in the international market

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01:15:20.990 --> 01:15:23.569
sports and soft-powered

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01:15:23.600 --> 01:15:30.370
is also having a great important role in bringing regions, nations, and diverse cultures together.

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01:15:30.650 --> 01:15:58.470
Sports have a healing power and cantonic people and cultures. For example, the state from where I belong to that is Odessa, which represents hockey in such a way that it has staged 2 hockey world cups in a span of 5 years. Similarly, the organization where I am working for plays a very vital role in promoting the sports of India. Under the leadership of Dr. Ajudiceam.

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01:15:59.200 --> 01:16:06.030
the great Nelson Mandela used to say that sports has a power to change the world. It can unite

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01:16:07.440 --> 01:16:08.710
the nations

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as well as it can foster. It can further get rid of the racial barriers as well.

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So let us now discuss the cultural systems which are closely linked to international relations and play a vital role in diplomacy.

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To begin with, the culture acts as a navigation compass in decision, making

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cultural concepts strongly influence the way national leaders regard political issues and often determine the solutions they chose to solve. The issues both individually and collectively

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cultural values represent the architect of international social trust.

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The competitiveness of a nation depends on a unique universal characteristics, and that it's social trust

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according to the thesis of cultural convergence

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which represents an important power for international integration. There is a strong trend of unification and homogeneization in the rise and fall of civilizations.

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This trend reaches its climax in the industrial era.

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Now I would like to discuss the various steps taken by the Democratic organizations to safeguard the

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a culture and heritage, understanding its importance in the global domain.

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For example, in the year 2,003 Unesco Convention for safeguarding of the intangible cultural heritage. What is worthy of protection started to include new cultural domains, such as oral traditions and expressions, including language, performing arts, social practices, rituals, and festive events.

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knowledge and practices concerning Nature and the universe and Traditional craftsmanship. In 2,015, with the use of Geospatial Informations.

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the United Nations Institute for Training and Research Unitar published satellite photos, showing the is I as militants, had destroyed the temple of Belle and Palmara, which led to Italy's propositions in the UN General Assembly to create the blue helmet for culture.

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an emergency task force for culture, bringing together cultural heritage experts and Italian force.

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Historically. cultural relations involve

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exchanges in arts and science, education and language and understanding, involving social issues such as human rights and empowerment.

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Recent developments have brought in digital interaction, climate change and sustainable development. Oil was not an impressive power resource before the industrial age, nor was uranium

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significant before the nuclear age.

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Power, resource cannot be judged without knowing the context.

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In some situations those who hold high office, command, force, or possess wealth are not the most powerful always.

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Thus is what revolutions are about.

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For example, the information, revolution and globalization are transforming

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the global era.

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For example, I will give the Bts K pop from Korea, Japanese anime to name a few.

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In conclusion, I would like to say, and I would like to emphasise that youth are the builders of the nation. They are the future and the backbone of the nation, and thus it is very important to empower them with the necessary skills.

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India being the world's largest democracy with multi-ethnic population, have rich diversities which also reflects in its youth and their skills by having diverse cultural asset and charismatic politicians, can raise a country's soft power. Still it has to go beyond the individual factors before sustainable growth

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in soft power can be achieved.

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In today's globalized world. A significant increase in the global economy can be attributed

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to the influence of soft power, therefore increasing a country's soft power by skilling the youth in various fields, can boost the global economy and ensure its diplomatic ties and others.

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Thank you so much.

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Yeah.

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Volker Kirchberg: Okay. Jeffrey.

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Yes, I

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Volker Kirchberg: I don't hear you. Okay. you have to go to the microphone.

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We I want to introduce our good colleague, Volker Kersburg, who is, speaking, remote from Lunenburg, Germany, His title of the title of his paper is Real Utopias, arts and culture as catalysts. Are you? Are you seeing? My I? You see my my by presentation.

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Volker Kirchberg: Good and everybody.

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Volker Kirchberg: Yes, we see it great

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Volker Kirchberg: And we hear you as well. That's even better.

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Volker Kirchberg: Okay, let me just do this good. Now. let me just start because I don't think we have too much time I changed the title a little bit, and

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Volker Kirchberg: it is no more about democracy than about art the significance of us in culture in the so called real Utopia projects has to be discussed, maybe later, and at the end of my presentation. And please make sure that I have enough time that. I don't overdo my time. that's always my big problem in general.

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Volker Kirchberg: Okay, now, I don't know whether you know anything about the the context and the concept of the real Utopia which is based on Eric or the famous Marxist Socio American Maxing system. Just a recording right?

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Volker Kirchberg: Who wrote about for 20 years with the research about these real Utopias and the important part is really the work real in front of it. first of all, let's start with without talking too much about it

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Volker Kirchberg: about Aunts Bloch and Karl Manhattan, who actually started in the in the twentieth century to to re-sync the the concept of Thomas. Where was Utopia? And

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Volker Kirchberg: and upstanding that this has to deal with the totalitarian regimes of the twentieth century and expanding on it and criticizing it, of course. Now, what happened in the last years, and I think this is very important to understand that there has been a a pleasure of of text and research done on on the Utopian ideas, and one of the most, I think most interesting ones has been done by a group from

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Volker Kirchberg: again, Turkish, American, and also German. science. Social scientists dealing with the significance of the to the appearance and the emergence of Utopian ideas. In view of the global crisis that happens right now, and will happen even more in the future. So, after having

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Volker Kirchberg: discuss the idea of we Utopia that are there to be realized and not just to be envisioned, but to be really done by people initiatives that were done.

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Volker Kirchberg: We thought that we would do an empirical study in most Germany. My colleagues say, I believe that who is not here today, especially not at 30'clock in the morning. By the way, we. We looked at Utopian initiatives in North Germany. And we want, we wanted to think, how these Utopian initiatives can be realized in this. in in different areas of life.

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Volker Kirchberg: No, the research questions we are thinking of. the makes Mo. Mostly based on on Erikol and Wright's ideas. when he talks about these, I believe desiability by ability and achieve ability. that's the second bullet point on my presentation

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Volker Kirchberg: the 3 just very short. These 3 scales of Utopian thinking means what is desiable? That's what we wish. These are our visions without any borders, any limits. Then we have, the issues of viability. What is viable? What can we do? And then in front and then in in front of put it mostly put it in there we ask the questions, what is achievable. So we have this, this

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Volker Kirchberg: limitation of desirable visions to achievable possibilities, that why always talks about?

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Volker Kirchberg: He also talks about causes and consequences. Now we extended and saying, we do not only want to talk about causes and consequences of real Utopia, but we want to talk about micromas and and microcos is the same with the consequences. Talk about micromas and micro consequences of we are Utopias. And coming back to the first bullet point we also saw since we worked

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Volker Kirchberg: in an empirical environment in North Germany. And we we looked at several real Utopias in North Germany. We look at differences between Utopias that are in the cities and the main cities, and that are more in the rural areas. So that's what we do. 150

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Volker Kirchberg: let's come back to the last bullet point later.

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Volker Kirchberg: our empirical approach very shortly is we did. interviewing with people in. We are Utopias. This is an explorative research. We do. We intend to.

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Volker Kirchberg: of course, we intend to write a research grant trying to to do a major starting with my colleague and friend, I from the Hebrew University. In the future we would like to go further on and and compare real Utopian movements in Germany and in Israel

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Volker Kirchberg: quite, very different countries. But that that's the reason we want to compare these 2. Now, at this moment we look at 14 Utopia in North Germany covering 8 years of life. And don't talk too much about the data analysis method. But I'd like to show you the areas of these real Utopians that we looked in, which is urban development

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Volker Kirchberg: had some care housing. consumer goods. working

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Volker Kirchberg: agriculture and food education. And then, of course, that's why, here culture and the arts, there are further lives, areas of life that we want to investigate in the future, which is mostly the area of mobility and issues of discrimination and poverty.

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Volker Kirchberg: So

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Volker Kirchberg: those we we, we we intended to look at. that means we intended to look at 8 areas

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Volker Kirchberg: in this moment. And we wanted to always have 2 comparative, real Utopia initiatives, one in the rural area and one in one of the cities in North Germany. The major cities in North Germany, which, by the way we looked at, was humbug and a Hanover. These are the cities we looked at

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Volker Kirchberg:  I I don't want to go too much into the details of these initiatives, but there's, for instance, something like, let's go to this one something like a co-working spaces in in in a rural area an old

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Volker Kirchberg: post-industrial area in the world part of. And we looked at a co-worker space, a feminist co-work in space in a Hamburg as as a count upon to the rural area. We also looked at, for instance, just examples at 2 schools, educational size.

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Volker Kirchberg: which is a free school and a small village very close by my town, where I teach and the other one is school in Hanover. So again a rule and an

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Volker Kirchberg: the Darwin School. Then we looked at, so called community supported agricultural initiatives. they in the countryside? people who live and work there.

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Volker Kirchberg: growing vegetables, and giving them in a cooperative way away to the members of these clubs and urban gardening, which probably you all have heard about it. mostly now in the city of Hanover. At this moment again, one is in the very remote a group area. The other one is in the middle of a midgetown.

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Volker Kirchberg: and we have a housing projects which is a so-called Eco- village close to the in the rural region, which is

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Volker Kirchberg: There are 400 people living there. They just started it about.

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Volker Kirchberg: let me think 8 years ago, and find the people who live and live and and work there as a as a Utopian project.

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Volker Kirchberg: and we have an oven housing project in Hamburg, the so-called Drake building on the right side, where we have already in the second generation kind of cooperative housing development where people live together on a very low end. But in the center of Hamburg, by the way.

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Volker Kirchberg: So if we look at the urban and real comparison.

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Volker Kirchberg: We have advantages and disadvantages, and I just don't want to bother you and and bore you a lot with our empirical message, or not to good issues. But coming, I would like to come right to the findings of of my research of our research. we we look at it, and we found that

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Volker Kirchberg: all the people we talked to

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Volker Kirchberg: well, they were in the urban or the rural areas. who created these real Utopias. see a lot of advanced just in the rule. We are Utopia and a lot of disadvantages in the real Utopia that they have created in the city. So they've seen more gardens and more obviously in the cities. And there's there more opportunities seen in the rural areas.

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Volker Kirchberg: for instance, opportunities for personal development. on the other side, we have a lot more structures, especially the the threat of gentrification which makes living in the city more and more expensive.

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Volker Kirchberg: Also, what we found is, even though these are enlightened people, most of them progressive people. we mostly looked at

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Volker Kirchberg: progressive left wing people in these real Utopian projects. they still had cliche about each other. So They assume that there's more political activity in the city, and there's more social isolation in the countryside.

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Volker Kirchberg: there's more social life in the city and less in the countryside, which is

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Volker Kirchberg: completely wrong, because, in fact, objectively. The differences are not that big as people like to? take minutes for care. Thank you for telling me. let me just get We are most not too many that these are when we talk about disability, viability and achievability. I just see that a lot of people say something like the person in the work. We are Utopia at the beginning.

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Volker Kirchberg: look out for each other, value each other more. We create creative centers in the world. We are global citizens. And on the other hand, we have

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Volker Kirchberg: issues of achievability. I can only realize Utopia. We're working through one step at a time. So we have people who think that we can it reach to the goal, to the stars. And then we have people in this way. Utopia says, no, we have to do very small steps

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Volker Kirchberg: going to the causes. And that's I'm talking about causes and consequences. Now to the end of this real Utopia we have micro-level courses and micro-level causes. I I I I don't have the Me. So that right now on this on this slide.

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Volker Kirchberg: and it seems to be very important that on a micro level these, the work, the personal development, the togetherness, and also the way. If you look to the outside, it is much better in our niche in the place we live in.

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Volker Kirchberg: That's very important for them, and on the micro level the most important one is probably the cost. We want to hide before the crisis. We want to get away from the global prices that are blicking out global crisis. I keep that away. And then I can go about my everyday life quite happily. So they find their own bubble where they try to live in the real Utopia, however.

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Volker Kirchberg: all of them. And this goes back to a record and wide. Think about either. What kind of consequence they would like to have

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Volker Kirchberg: transformations on a revolutionary level.

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Volker Kirchberg: on a niche level. That's the interstitial transformation. Or on it, I would say, social democratic level. That's the symbiotic transformation. Again, we see these 3 levels here. The rupture of transformation is not important, but the most important one is probably for the urban. We, your tok is

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Volker Kirchberg: erez agmoni. We want to have an island we want to have for Bubble. We want to create a better life for us, and we don't care so much about what's going on outside, whereas in the rural we in Utopia, 250,

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Volker Kirchberg: they talk a lot about corporation, they said. We have to work together with our democratically minded actors, and we cannot live only in a puppet. So again, a difference between the rule and the urban real Utopia.

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Volker Kirchberg: other expected consequences. We have

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Volker Kirchberg: so

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Volker Kirchberg: to to really see what we can do on a real level, on a concrete level, not on an abstract level, but on the concrete level, starting to have a agriculture initiative that grows organic food for for people, customers who live around who pay a decent price for it and and not being just focused on a low price not focused on profits.

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Volker Kirchberg: On the other hand, we have the micro-level consequences.

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Volker Kirchberg: and that's especially experiences of strong efficacy. So what can we do? Do we see our real Utopia as a game changer? And they are actually

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Volker Kirchberg: a lot of limitations. Because in late capitalism gives what? And in bureaucracy we have this limitations of

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Volker Kirchberg: creating

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Volker Kirchberg: changes on a macro level. So a lot of these real Utopias are focused and limited on them, on the positive micro level consequences which goes pretty much

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Volker Kirchberg: into the direction I have here between structural constraints and agency opportunities. Efficiency. As I just said, they see we can change something. But can we change the world No self description as an experimental room and a mind Mini biotope for social designs is important.

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Volker Kirchberg: and, on the other hand, the structure constraints are too big. So again, focusing on small scale differences actually more in a puppet as a kind of last 2 slides Geoffrey.

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Volker Kirchberg: as a kind of putting our findings together. They are these 3 dimensions that we found. So we have a very much according to Eric, or in wide some initiatives who think on visions, on visionary ideas, or even on a major social tel level. where this viable ideas

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Volker Kirchberg: they think about implementation, they think about how to realize issues. And they want to go small steps. That's the one opposite the other dimension is the one that I mentioned again and again.

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Volker Kirchberg: which was surprisingly clear between real Utopia that have been developed in the urban area. But it's the one that have been developed in the rural area. And and again, I'm coming. I'm thinking about turn this and society and community. The difference between these 2 and the third major intervention. The dimension is the one between structure and agency, or between societal reasoning and individual reasoning.

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Volker Kirchberg: because a lot of them say they have individual reasoning more than societal reasoning.

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Volker Kirchberg: which, by the way, is of course related to issues of crisis, of global on the on the global display. Okay, the outlook, the last, the last one is this one

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Volker Kirchberg: we need further research. And one of them is about. We would like to have, as I said, a extent. the knife areas that we want to look at, we will look at. We are Utopias as a power balance and trying it off the market. The state of the civil society very much We would like to know more about the species that still exist between living in the city and living in the rural areas.

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Volker Kirchberg: and we would like to know more about the ideas of of objective data, of efficiency, of where your top is in society right now, we only did in this is people who work and who live in these in this, in these real Utopia again. what I don't have on this slide is the comparison that we plan

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Volker Kirchberg: looking at real Utopia development in Germany, comparing it with real Utopia that are developed today in Israel. So that would be the next level of our research.

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Volker Kirchberg: Well, thank you very much. Thank you for care for that very interesting

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presentation. We we have little time, but we do have 5 of 4 4Â min. So questions. Here's one

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Hi Walker. Thank you for your presentation. I'm a result from Chile. And I ask in the COVID-19 the rural property became very expensive in general in the world.

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The economies talk about

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new luxury. The property rural became the new luxury

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because the people can to move it for work in the order, in everywhere, so that phenomena change the dynamics, rural dynamics.

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for example, in relationship than water the relationship, the price of the land, etc. Can you take about that for the rural Utopias, please?

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Volker Kirchberg: Yes, again. I I could talk about this now for 15Â min or longer. I just mentioned one issue. when I, when I talked about global crisis, of course the health crisis and the crisis of COVID-19 was one of the crisis that it

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Volker Kirchberg: actually attracted people to start and to to reinforce real Utopia in the rural areas. And the urban real utilities had a lot more problems

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Volker Kirchberg: in in finding a legitimation of of doing what they do, why, they were in the cities. So I I have. I have the idea. And this is purely a speculation right now that the global crisis. And that means not only COVID-19. But I'm talking about climate. The climate contest to fee. Will we support and strengthen rural you real Utopia small.

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Volker Kirchberg: It's more than urban. We're in trouble. But that's the speculation.

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Okay, thank you.

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I don't hear anything. So Anna, does the the the the the outskirts. Literature that you describe

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does it get into this? Is it red in the cities. Is there some dialectic or course fertilization between these regional literatures and and And the the big cities, and vice versa, and so do they get a chance to publish and get a larger audience.

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Volker Kirchberg: first of all, the question for Anna.

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Okay, or an in in her talk on. Oh, I'm sorry on Brazilian literature.

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Okay.

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Ana Lucia Teixeira: don't worry. I I really would like to hear from you about this as well. So I good to be very, very quick. Actually, this is something that has been appearing in in the peripheral areas of the big cities in Brazil. And maybe Marisol

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Ana Lucia Teixeira: could help me with that, I think, in in today as well, and I think in Buenos Aires as well in big cities, and not only in Latin America, but as well in in in North America. It's a new groups with new language, and it's a sometimes it has something to do with the music or not. It's not mandatory.

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Ana Lucia Teixeira: And normally it's the the big theme is the the such a condition of this groups. So in in in this cities, especially in some follow. They really created some kind of institutionalized net

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Ana Lucia Teixeira: to work. They have big big swathes. This is very disputed. Everyone wants to be. there. It's very, very, very, very well know, and a lot of people go there. They are publishing in very special published houses, which are very ferical as well.

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Ana Lucia Teixeira: and I think it's I think it's they are bringing new things to us to to think

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Ana Lucia Teixeira: with new categories. So I I

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Ana Lucia Teixeira: I stop here to to here for you please.

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The questions here

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or

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the panel has any questions for each other. Please feel free also.

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I have a question for you. You have to speak to the my. okay, it's about the

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we. For example, the Latin American musician in Turkey is about the musician and the group, the music musician, the migrant music

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in in Turkey, in your

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you found the musician artistic mobility.

748
01:45:06.580 --> 01:45:10.740
thank you very much for the question,

749
01:45:10.790 --> 01:45:13.449
we are focusing on

750
01:45:13.470 --> 01:45:23.890
censorship and bending, etc. But there are migrant positions, especially now. There are more than for

751
01:45:23.930 --> 01:45:26.050
1 million Syrians.

752
01:45:26.110 --> 01:45:37.430
Then many of them make their lives out of making music on streets. They are kicked out of the streets.

753
01:45:37.480 --> 01:45:40.840
and there are also Kurdish.

754
01:45:41.080 --> 01:45:42.750
the Kurdish

755
01:45:42.890 --> 01:45:46.620
music makers on streets, but it's

756
01:45:47.160 --> 01:45:52.330
It's quite difficult to get into these institutional channels.

757
01:45:52.370 --> 01:45:53.510
A.

758
01:45:54.120 --> 01:45:56.219
but that

759
01:45:56.840 --> 01:46:02.389
there are travelers from Latin America coming.

760
01:46:02.440 --> 01:46:12.190
but the the most the biggest one is the Middle Eastern African Street. As musicians.

761
01:46:12.730 --> 01:46:18.819
I don't know other arts, but I can see music. depending on

762
01:46:19.010 --> 01:46:24.010
I they're the political situations. They are

763
01:46:24.090 --> 01:46:28.219
kept our kick out of streets. That's what I can say.

764
01:46:29.060 --> 01:46:30.380
Okay.

765
01:46:31.980 --> 01:46:55.740
So just now to do an announcement for the Rc. some of you already know, we will have our business meeting, which is not as officially in the program, so it will not. It will not be on Saturday morning, but it will be on Friday after the last session. So everybody was interested. Please join. Okay.

766
01:46:55.800 --> 01:47:03.249
yes, including remote. Of course, this is why I'm also talking to for Carrier Nana in this case.

767
01:47:03.370 --> 01:47:08.930
Okay, then, thank you for your presentations. We see at the next.

768
01:47:09.080 --> 01:47:14.000
at the next meeting. Okay, bye, bye.

