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Hi, good afternoon, everyone. And I'm I'm from Taiwan, and I'm teaching in Studio University for about 5 years. And I got my Phd. In the United States. And today's topic is around surveillance. So I want to spend some time to present my research study. The topic is a mediating effect of institutional trust, our public.

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And we know that network balance is advanced technology, and the government usually use it to monitor entire population, and the government may sometimes use it to access or watch people's activities. But we know there are some issues related to the surveillance.

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and many studies is called this topic, and they find manufacturers that affect the public's attitude to the scientists by them of the preceded me. Who really means this technology to watch out our activity or not.

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And some people also, cancer using the balance may have a negative impact on our privacy. So it's a big issue.

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And also previous study shows that institutional trust. So if people have a high confidence in the government, usually they tend to agree to use the balance. If they do not trust the government, they will oppose the government to install this technology in a public place. So it is also a very important factor.

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and some other studies may want to compare or attitude of surveillance cause culture, so they would use cultural difference as a contextual vector to discuss when you lay any difference between an attitude to the land across country. So it's also a very important factor to to these kinds of.

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And in my study I want to confine the true factor. One is institutional trust, and one is cultural value. And the cultural value. Here. I want to focus on individualism and the correct capitalism to see if a layer is in

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in terms of this true concept affect how we, how we how it's a for you think there was a balance. So we can see some previous study.

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First is a cultural difference. We know culture can be true, even dimension of concept. You can refer different beliefs dependent on or different behavior pattern. So probably we cannot just simplify culture into a single one variable. So it can include a lot of different town sector and some scholar, particularly.

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they suggest, perhaps we can use individualism and collective reason.

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and to compare, or to

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one way, we can use this to concept. So we have an individualism. It can include different ideas and values, such as economy

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or a secondary, dependent, individual initiative, personnel privacy, and the you will stress our defense on the self responsible. However, in collectively it is opposite, we may focus on our strengths, and that such a solidarity related to social centralism, interdependence, allegation. And we will focus more on

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and basically on previous study. Let's fight. If the people, the appreciation value of individualist and then tend to be autonomous and independent. So they were concerned about personal privacy, and they will think a sense of self responsibility is important, so people are expected to take care of themselves.

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However, in the collective society the legitimacy is facing on a collective decision, so a lot of decision is under the consideration of group not a one person themselves so based on the previous study, we can concur that if a people, they have a higher level. Higher level of collective realism they are more likely to support, to use sebalance.

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But people, if they have a more value, light stress on individualism, they probably will not agree or accept to. you things that

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so based on previous study, I propose. The first research question is whether cultural difference in terms of individualism and Collectivism, would affect the perception of self privacy and the social justice. And whether this Council will further affect how

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mit Ctl and how we think about surveillance, whether that using surveillance is compatible with our own value or not lines my first research question. So based on my first research question, I propose a conceptual model, so we can see a 3 different hypotheses, the hypothesis. One. I want to test association between individualism and the privacy council. So in these hypotheses I want to test 150

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mit. Ctl. And if a people with a higher level of individual reason, and they tend to think, using surveillance will have a negative impact on their own privacy. And hypothesis, too, is that your people have a higher level of collectivism. They will tend to agree. Using surveillance is good for social justice. One.

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So we move to the hypothesis. 3. Hypothesis 3 is light. If people think new things valid will have a negative impact on their own privacy, then they will tend to think, using surveillance is not compatible with their own value.

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and on the other seat. If the people are green, you think surveillance. If you for social justice, then they will tend to agree, using surveillance is more compatible with layer on value. So this is a simple conceptual model one.

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and let move to the next, because in this is in this study. I also want to discuss the institutional trust. So based on previous study, we can find that, in fact, there is a very significant correlation between trust, institution and trust and support for surveillance.

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because trust institution is an important vector, it will be further linked to how we evaluate the government, such as the competence in implementing the security technology and the effectiveness of surveillance program and the transparency in this process. So in fact, it's also a very important fact to affect how people evaluate and how people's attitude towards surveillance.

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So I propose. My second research question is whether institutional trust will affect our perception of surveillance

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so based on lease. I include institutional trust as a mediated effect in my model, so I can see in institutional trust is on the middle. So I assume you may affect how we perceive the outcome of using surveillance in terms of privacy, concern, and also social justice. And I also want to examine if the higher institutional trust

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and we also result in more support for surveillance.

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Well outcome.

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So lies my second research model. And in this study I use the data, a based on a project called Public Opinion of Network Surveillance, that is conducted by our State University because I graduate from here.

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and this project is sponsored by National Science foundation, and in this way the possible respondents include a doubt, aating, and order and resigning the 48 continuous United States.

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And the final in this survey include 748 respondents.

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So in the survey It makes a respondent's opinion about using surveillance to improve local enforcement. So in the questionnaire, This founder will read this content. So the government agency might use neighbor surveillance to quickly identify area of potential crime and conditioned by my straight and public selfty.

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but doing so may require agency to monitor your electrical communication as well as your location and your in technical device will allow for such mandatory. So it is a content of this survey.

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And now I want to introduce the major in my study because I focus on individualism and collectively, and we know, light is a concept. So in my study, individualism is a factor in group 5 different, variable. So here shows these 5 a different variable. For example, it could stop telling people how to live their life and protect people from themselves.

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or to let individual tech responsibility for their own life. And so on and basically on these 5 variable. I got the good reality. So we can say, use this 5 variable to examine individual, we can have a good reliability.

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And this life shows the Collectivism. It includes 4 different variable, such as make law to keep people from hurting and self

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putting on the choice individual can make, or I

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do more to advance. So societies go or rely on the Government for help. and based on these 4 different variable. We also, I also gather a simple reliability.

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and this slide shows the other 3 vectors. Privacy concerns social justice and compatible with value. So, for example, pirates concern Larry's bounder will be asked the question using surveillance will threaten personal privacy to do, do you agree or disagree? There are some different labels, so you can choose families

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and also using surveillance, may increase identity in theft

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and also equal increased draft of health information, and for social justice it include 2 different variable, such as using surveillance, may treat minority fairly. Do you agree or not? Is a different level. Also treat women failed.

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and the last one is compatible with respondents. Value plus means using surveillance may consist with my many, my value and the ease of right things to do, and people like me will support use of network surveillance. So we have at least 5 factor, and we use a different variable to to examine these factor.

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And also we got a very good. Alpha. So means they have a good liability.

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Yeah.

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And also I include some demographic characteristic as a control variable, such as age, gender, race, ethnicity, education, income and political orientation.

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Okay, here, I want to show some some fighting. This is a descriptive statistic.

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and the the scale range is between 0 and 1010 point. And this 5 factor layer average is about 3 and 6 point yeah, just in the middle in the middle of the range.

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And this slide shows the finding basic on our first model. So we can look at individual and privacy council. There is a positive significant means that if a people. They have a higher level of individualism, and they tend to agree, or they tend to think. Using surveillance will have a negative impact on layer privacy.

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on the opposite

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collectivism and social justice. If a people have a higher level of collectiveness, they will agreeing, using surveillance is good for social justice.

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Okay? Let's move on

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bungalow. right sites, privacy, council, and social justice, we find compared to privacy, concern. Social justice has a large effect on how we perceive using surveillance.

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So you can see a number is 0 point 6 3.

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This means for those who think using surveillance is good for social justice. They will a green light using surveillance is compatible with their own value. So compared to pilot council, social justice even have a more impact on how we perceive using our surveillance.

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This is my second conceptual model. So I include institutional trust in the middle, and we can see that if the people have more confidence on government.

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and they tend to believed. using surveillance is good for social justice. If they have confidence to look out on the government they tend to believe using surveillance is good for social justice, and also we can find that if the institutional trust is higher, then people are more likely to agree or to support using surveillance.

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This number shows, if, in fact, they also have a large infect on our attitude of supporting

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government to use surveillance.

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So all

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I want to some a summary of my fighting.

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We can find that, in fact, individualism, and collectively, that indeed will affect how we perceive the possible outcome of using surveillance. So we find that if people believe, surveillance will promote social justice. Language believe using surveillance is compatible with their value.

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However, if a people they believe sullens will affect their privacy. Landlord tend to believe using surveillance is not compatible with layout value.

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and, second, our institutional trust has a positive effect on how we perceive social justice. So we know that if you have a confident on government, and you will see the using surveillance will also promote social justice. And finally, we find that institutional trust can also moderate how we think about our surveillance, and you will also further

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enhance the public's attitude for supporting, using surveillance. So lies the fighting of my body. Thank you.

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Elena Gavrilina: My many thanks for practicing call. And if you anybody has some questions you can ask it.

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Elena Gavrilina: please. free email

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Elena Gavrilina: to ask the question practice may be our online participation or

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Elena Gavrilina: offline participator.

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Oh, can you say your question? I do not.

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Elena Gavrilina: we we don't have in chat any question. And if nobody don't have in your room I want to ask a short question if if it's possible.

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Elena Gavrilina: And I want to ask, How how do you understand them?

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policy?

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Elena Gavrilina: Yeah, we don't have, we? Don't we don't hear. Hi! I could you hear me? Thank you

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Elena Gavrilina: for like the correct for you here now

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it's a little bit. The sound is not really good quality. If you can move to your microphone a little bit closer.

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I?

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Elena Gavrilina: Okay, maybe it's some questions. But you hear me? Yeah. Oh.

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Elena Gavrilina: I I asked about how do you understand? indoorism and collectivism, do you mean in the sense of of or someone else?

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Elena Gavrilina: No, no, don't. Yeah, okay, that's that's

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Elena Gavrilina: I think it's a little bit of a combination of the sound and 2 different accents. And it's very It's just difficult to understand the the question. So yeah, it's just it's because the sound is a little bit like muffled. So it's kind of we're losing.

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Elena Gavrilina: There's one question in the room. Okay.

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yep.

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Elena Gavrilina: thank you.

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yeah.

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And you can find many different gender difference in the sub-sah for personal reading, basically on my data by compared to many.

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very rich person.

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These are going to.

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but it's it.

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in terms of doing what they do, and I don't know if you really

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because in this study I only use a database based on the Us. The Us. Western. So sometimes I think the results shows some factor. And

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my recent study that I I compare the the attitude to a surveillance cross country. I use a war value survey. So you can compare even different people's attitude to the surveillance, and like will be quite different because they study only focus on you as season. So probably just reveal some sector.

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But in this study I use individualism and collectivism, and at first I think us must be a very high level of individualism. But when I run the data, I find that, in fact, collectively, so, it's even higher than the visual reason, I think, because the Us. Contains a lot of people's cultural background, and they have layer

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divine cultural value. And it will also affect how they think using a surveillance.

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But I think, content is also very important. So because in different country, the electronic device, the development of your technical device is different. And, for example, on the big city. There are a lot of surveillance everywhere, but in a country inside we can find even one. So that is a big difference, and I think probably they will also affect how people think

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to install the Valence or not.

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Perhaps in countries.

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Because there is no surveillance, and probably we cannot to know. What occurrence of the crime or violence, and probably people were more likely the Government to install surveillance in a country that is possible. But in a city that too many. So we do not think like we should have a more. I I lies my explanation. Yeah.

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Elena Gavrilina: I hope I answer your question. Go on to the next speaker, I think.

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Elena Gavrilina: and the now I want to invite one of you from the east of Columbia, from Italy.

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I'm just going to stop sharing that you can share your screen.

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Barbara Ambrogio: it's a second is it.

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Yeah, I can see. Just put it in presentation mode

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just on the bottom. Right of your screen.

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Barbara Ambrogio: Okay?

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Barbara Ambrogio: Moment, please. Okay, yeah. Yeah.

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Barbara Ambrogio: So

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Barbara Ambrogio: good morning. Good afternoon. Everyone.

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Barbara Ambrogio: well, my new presentation. It's about industry. And I'd like to start with with some definition about industry for conceal it can be dependent as the production model based on the configuration between digital tools.

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Barbara Ambrogio: And that's intelligence in the automation system in the production process. and it appears for the first time in 2,011 in the joint program. Itech strategy, 2,020 action plan promoted by German Government and entrepreneurs

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Barbara Ambrogio: and theileroni began to be officially launched by the World Economic Forum in now 2,016. I think this is the relevant time since industry with saving images about the ability to solve most of the current economical and financial problems so that this kind of fate seems to embody a institutional and a common and economic stakeholders

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Barbara Ambrogio: hope that global economy can somehow be put on track, returning to invest in the real economy.

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Barbara Ambrogio: And this conjure an expectation here to reflect on the function of technological interaction into the production process.

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Barbara Ambrogio: so my.

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Barbara Ambrogio: and the a most of this work is to understand how this wave of technologies impacts the production of value in line with the critical yellow from the courts.

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Barbara Ambrogio: and that is taking in mind the conviction, the contradiction inside the commodity commodity form. How technologies innovation modifies relationship between lever and value

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Barbara Ambrogio: the purposes is that

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Barbara Ambrogio: industry 4.0 fits into the production process in our contradictory way, because it increases the share of non-productive capital. Be its cost and capital or rebel. While increasing the productivity delivery.

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Barbara Ambrogio: considering the progressive decrease in the rate of product

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Barbara Ambrogio: of profit recordable for the last half century. Port industrial evolution can be interpreted as an effort to re-establish acceptable levels of relativity by minimizing downtime errors and maintaining time.

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Barbara Ambrogio: we have to keep in mind that super physical system in this platform, and tools and admin additive manufacturing are machine, and as such they enter industry by will of certain social agents the term capitalist

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Barbara Ambrogio: but they are materially used by others. The workers. And this complexual dynamic is a fundamental condition for understanding the purpose of adopting a technological innovation with the mechanical room or the most recently used to software.

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Barbara Ambrogio: So the theoretical framework I use. I I just talked about you on quality labour. I'm sorry.

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Barbara Ambrogio:  there is a you debit about the concept of unproductive level.

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Barbara Ambrogio: and we are not the time to discuss on. We will just get some points in the fifth book of capital, Max, the finest productive, only the worker will produce surface barrier for the capitalist.

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Barbara Ambrogio: this is who the self evaluation of capital

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Barbara Ambrogio: in the particular forms that capital is most historically assumed. Gray areas are created, and situation which is not easy to distinguish whether a job is productive or not. but I think it is a significant difference

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Barbara Ambrogio: to understanding the state of health of capitalism as only exchange for productive libraries of one of the conditions for the retrace formation of surpass value into capital.

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Barbara Ambrogio: So Obviously, we should distinguish between the level of individual capital and the one, because, looking at individual companies, it's possible to recognize as some productive those activities that pull under general expense.

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Barbara Ambrogio: and they can be positive for the company specializing, providing the service they can generate a profit. But on a global level this cost refers with the negative sign as substantially as a subtraction, subtraction of the total surplus value.

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Barbara Ambrogio: There is another distinction which appears perhaps more relevant

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Barbara Ambrogio: and indicative for the proposal, the research.

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Barbara Ambrogio: because in this decreases of value, of exchange value curts. I like the contradiction between concrete and upset work, between productive work in the material sense and productive work of value.

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Barbara Ambrogio: Since the concrete material library is transformed into a cooperative process, the identity between the concrete value and the concrete work process and the permission of valid is preacted onto a total productive worker.

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Barbara Ambrogio: Erez agmoni. This result in the dissociation of a whole series of functions, which are therefore not productive with respect to both the materiality of the work and the value. In the first place, the commercial activity, but also the procedures of for certification, transmission, and notification of contracts can also be entered here. One

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Barbara Ambrogio: In some way the comparative work process implies the emergence of function which will do a part of the immediate work process are not involved in the directly cooperative work process, and that is of direction and control. because they arise from the conflict between capital and labour.

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Barbara Ambrogio: fairly. There's a service of function which curs indicate as intellectual work in the broader sense.

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Barbara Ambrogio: with while entering the material content of production. in a mediated way. And these are, for example, the task of the technical monitoring design and technical management of of a project

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Barbara Ambrogio: and said jobs at indeed be isolated from the immediate production process, but they reappear as component of the total productive worker, and in this sector appear

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Barbara Ambrogio: particularly interesting because they are the ones in which industry corporate 0 technologies act substantially in which both the process of reduction by transfer to the several physical infrastructure take place as well as that of personally shares to rationalization. Thanks to information technologies in Mr. Craft.

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Barbara Ambrogio:  regarding the activities belonging belonging to tears category.

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Barbara Ambrogio: we had, some data that came from 2 very relevant papers proposed by a World Economic Forum and and Company. And they like, I think, the correlation between increases in productivity and efficiency and the reduction of wasting cost of certain technologies and sector

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Barbara Ambrogio: in particular, in designing virtual and digital prototyping. we have to keep in mind that the traditional decent process is characterized by sequential activities from the same concept to the up to the last test.

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Barbara Ambrogio: And conversely, the coolant still quite common to the model based digital simulation digital things, a lot to create a, we still a virtual engineering environment to simulate instead of using the physical model so as to significantly reduce the research and development, the time

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Barbara Ambrogio: but in the quality control case and in maintenance one we can notice a remarkable decrease in terms of cost, quality, defect, rate and machinery downtime.

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Barbara Ambrogio:  this this moment we sparked this of production should in a certain sense, be analyzed as a single moment because, while in the traditional procedure, the former was located at particular moments in random checks or in a final ones. in in industry for point 0, these 2 prices are alert and distributed throughout production and depend on the correct functioning of the tools and the work of.

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Barbara Ambrogio: I need to underline 1 point. actually to this machine interfaces in virtual reality system allowed to shift an extraction to the line worker. because giving precess indication and that guiding not that personal factors to carry out the maintenance activities.

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Barbara Ambrogio: so that a new industry, for, considered that trend is that monitoring the and maintenance activity became a service that manufacturers can sell to their cost. Customers in doing so. What for? A company essentially consists of a necessary but nonproactive non value. Add activity is a profitable business for those who provide it as an after sales service.

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Barbara Ambrogio: and the second points talked about the overlapping and symphony of production phases in in the superior. The production process should be a network in which many faces must take place simultaneously.

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Barbara Ambrogio: Such that more than a reader like in a line production process, it is realized in in a, in in which a flows of value means like currents in multiple directions.

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Barbara Ambrogio: Of course, ready notice. Since Nico electronics appearance? and it's reversible, this Johnson, between exchange value and its substance labor.

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Barbara Ambrogio: And what's the problem of the contradiction that this resolution generates at the level of global markets.

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Barbara Ambrogio: Moreover, and in conclusion, it seems interesting to notice that the characteristic technologies are mostly immaterial, and they are industrial platforms, software and clothing.

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Barbara Ambrogio: and that's provided from a hands full of big company. they are technologies capable of acting on those operational communication and creative and intellectual activities on which it was probably previously difficult to integrate in terms of and reduction.

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And the presentation in I'm doing today is based on research conducted from June to September, or 2,021 in Uruguay by researchers of a University of the Republic. It's set out to identify older people's understanding on data.

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their perceptions about the use and value of the data and their needs regarding the management of their personal data. In platform context.

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With Catherine Rayleigh. We have just published an article on this research and findings. We also received the support of Simon Fraser University in Canada, and the University of the Republic in Euroway.

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This, a work is based on the concern about how the new ontological forces and patterns, patterns of surveillance embedded in Plateau's plateau-platomised services represent the needs, desires, or values of other people, and what they mean for policy.

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system, and service offerings. More broadly, the literature considers the implication of statified transactions within latiform system for the expression of care, meaning, and belonging.

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It revealed that the extent of the digital system put in place to mediate every daily services and evidenced gaps in regulatory frameworks meant to uphold the digital rights of citizen citizens, illustrating the potential for platformization and gratification to deepen digital inequalities.

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Mandy, another's understanding platforms as a kind of programmable. Architecture! And argue that this system should not be understood as mere intermediaries, but Sharp sharpers of reality and ways of living.

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finally facilitated by new infrastructures for collecting data. A new ideologist about the power of Theta which together have allowed for the introduction of new forms of data. Valence data aliens.

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commodification its transformation into tradable entities and alerted a lot of algorithms, algorithmically-driven selection processes that curate interactions through often black boxes techno-commercial strategies.

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The resulting platforms allow the continuous digitization and monitoring of people, bodies and practices, and they also have ontological force, which is to say that they have real implications for the constitution of the courses. fields, institutional frameworks, and social experiences

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in these systems. Rationally a validated consent from data subjects proves to be an ongoing challenge. This, this is partly because individuals do not fully understand the link between data transfer transfer processing and monitoring.

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However, it is also because they fund themselves without alternatives to platform that increasingly transition access to essential social services, this create the experience of of surveillance realism

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in which people are aware of normalisation of data gathering and there limit a limited possibilities for agency within this new reality. This is often because systems themselves have has been designed

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around models of modes of transacting that centered data collection and transaction management over situated identities and unique interactions.

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Furthermore, without effective spaces for complain. platforms, users become complicit with this reproduction of platform logic to the detriment of people's individual rights.

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Guru, Monti, and others argue that in stripping, or or the private people of their identity. Data platforms constitute new sites of exploitation in intelligence. economies.

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platform owners mobilized this data to produce instruments of economic and political control.

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The people and community lose the decision-making autonomy, and they become subordinated to logics of platformisation built around the massive rollout of immediate gratification in exchange for personal data.

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In other words, the reductive logic built into platforms draw on and process data in ways that shaped subjectivity and social experience, and which overlooked the complexity and plurality of human experiences.

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the pandemic demonstrated that social services increasingly depend on digital capabilities, and that, not having this put seniors access to services at risk with negative implications for their rights.

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several studies have criticized visions of technologically-driven intervention that ignore needs, perspectives and belief beliefs of older people and take up paternalistic approaches.

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So this is based on the research. I told that. And this we use an action research intervention.

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based on the initial response. An iter general sample was further developed by applying a snowball strategy which allowed us to amass a group of 16 participants that were in those virtual workshops.

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I'm sorry I don't know what you, so I want to not to take all the findings, because there's a lot. But I just put the dimensions in way. the first one is perspective on data

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of the participants, the second is elder people's data and provision of care. The third is immersion needs ethical data management and responsible citizenship.

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drawing on phenomenological approach. This work reveal complex relationships and disconnections between the ontological frameworks. Under a painting, the platformization of health care, and the reality and needs of older people. Given given their subject subjectivity.

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these were confirmed that the the significance of context for the meaning of data in particular, the polymerase perspectives on data revealed by the case, account for the various aspects of digital subjectivity that emerge during the style.

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This data subjectivity is shaped with or without patients consent, which means that they find themselves held hostage by the question of whether to share or not to share the data. Refusal implies exclusion for health care services.

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we beyond exist. Exist existing legislation or institutional mechanisms. Participants focus on trust in their health care provider as the main guarantee of appropriate data, use and management 250.

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indeed, as individual, so subject, and they hold themselves responsible for not taking measures to protect their their data, or for not choosing to file complaints where they they see failings in the system.

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we actually attribute this to their growing literacy about data policy. an uptake in Europe as the result of our interventions.

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and beyond the existing frameworks included, including responsible and unsafe use, critical and reflected use and creative and partative battery use. It would be very useful to recognize this. So to a situated nature of data, and it complex relationship with with with changing subjectivities.

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The spaces created for these studies were effective spaces for the co-constitution of of opinions about the management of data, and allowed a participants to reflect on on and express opinions about the expression and transformation of their digital subjectivity.

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as Van Dyck, and others point out, platforms are not just intermediaries, but in this case, and in the perception of all the people, they truly structure, they they truly structure the health care system, the type of care it offers, and the sense of well-being it makes possible.

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the work presented here. Detective, the ontological weight of categories that risk reinforcing existing existing inequalities and exclusions

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of other people as Rosales, and they will have discovered before.

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Elena Gavrilina: if you, if you anybody else. some questions. You are very welcome.

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to discuss the waste. They they, they, they, they, they, the the they, they, the the they, they, the they, they, the the they, they, the the they, they, the the they they they they they they, they, they, they, they they they to claim May Sunday months about.

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Elena Gavrilina: okay, Nora. Okay, thank you.

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Elena Gavrilina: is I in the yes, ma'am. from Bangladesh.

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Mohammad Mozumder: Yeah, that's what I'm trying to do now.

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Mohammad Mozumder: All right. Thank you. Thank you so much. So finally, that's my time. Now, I've been waiting to

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Mohammad Mozumder: present this. Okay? So the title you can see the quotedian use of mobile phone turning the ordinary to the extraordinary.

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Mohammad Mozumder: So first, I begin with this theoretical proposition. So what a technological device can do and what it signifies depend less on the technology itself. So we need more. What are they do is 3 things.

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Mohammad Mozumder: The the title of the topic of the research was, it could be the end that is everyday, you know, use that we use almost always knowing the already known. So the quotient is how they use it in their everyday life. These are paramount sociological importance.

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Mohammad Mozumder: literature. review that our previous studies looked at collective ownership of the device. How technical codes correspond or not do not correspond with the social course and cultural codes. My previous studies back in Here in Bangladesh I saw how teenagers use smartphone in innovative ways. Some of the girl uses you know, previous studies report. They feel empowered.

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Mohammad Mozumder: some of them find employment opportunities save money by using the phone

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Mohammad Mozumder:  For some reason, I I see only half. Okay. So I see the full screen. Now.

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Mohammad Mozumder: Okay, so the mythology, I used to quality developers 3 main phases of data collection. The first phase I use.

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Mohammad Mozumder: okay, it's better now. So the 3 main phases of interview. The first is the explorator interview in depth, interview, and follow up interview. We recorded, transcribed, and translated the interview. So we have about 800 pages of transcripts of only some selective interviews.

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Mohammad Mozumder: Mythology first is the exploratory interviews. First, we just we went to the 8 administrative divisions of the whole country. So you covered the whole country. We have respondents of different educational backgrounds, and you can see it here. We have female users, 130 female users, and then we interviewed in depth only of

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Mohammad Mozumder: some users of analytical interests and 2 rounds of follow up. And we have collected evidence like browsing history, profile, activity, log and photos. You have some limitations, of course.

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Mohammad Mozumder: we have a separate paper on addiction some dangerous things we try to avoid so that we can. We can focus on this thing. We want to know. implications.

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Mohammad Mozumder: one thing that the last point I want to emphasize here said in this study. I tried to focus deliberately on some of the optimistic side. There are lots of studies on the undersides, but I wanted to focus on the optimistic side. So

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Mohammad Mozumder: so the findings 3 main areas of the findings I present here the vital skill, communication and association. I'll get into those details first.

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Mohammad Mozumder: vital skill, self learning. the respondents.

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Mohammad Mozumder: They use voice searching and texting they use so they don't. Many of them don't have any educational sort of qualification. They don't know how to write. So they, by using the device they learned how to write.

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Mohammad Mozumder: they'll they'll learn to learn the alphabets, languages, and you'll see. So instead of writing. They use voice as the boys to text, and they also hear somebody else's text by converting the text to voice. So you see the translation of of a statement here

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Mohammad Mozumder: can't do it by writing, but there is voice option, of course. Just press that, and everything pops up.

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Mohammad Mozumder: Whatever I cannot write is another, a respondent, I just say, then it shows up. For example, I I just say Bangladesh song. It shows up in writing new on the song. This need to say, any singer or singers name just that, and it works so reading and writing it with prompts, although the respondents do not have

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Mohammad Mozumder: you know, institutional or formal education. They

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Mohammad Mozumder: they can read. they can ride in their own ways with prompts.

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Mohammad Mozumder: So language is kind of a picture for them. So the pictorial use of language, that's what I say. So you see, one of 24 years barber hairdresser in pub. No, it's a this, that person is saying, even if I write one or half of a word, the whole word pops up

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Mohammad Mozumder: also did that system with the help of a friend. So it took help from a friend so that he can use that way. So vital scale continues. You see, this one person says, I watch Youtube to learn tailoring make dresses, for example.

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Mohammad Mozumder: and they use this. They learn those skills mostly by themselves, often with the initial help from friends and friends and relatives.

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Mohammad Mozumder: So these are mostly self help, and they will end over the up skill and reskill them. So they customize, for example, noble designs they collect from online and then customize to serve their customers

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Mohammad Mozumder: they take pictures from online and then try to imitate that design. So in this process they create opportunities. They provide much needed support and help realize the untapped potentials otherwise unrecognized even beyond imagination.

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Mohammad Mozumder: So the vital skill continues. They use a lot of apps Snap to Snapchat Hot Star. We've made in short, snap camera, lightroom, video, live messenger like. And and all those stuff, although they do not have formal education. They seem to be kind of tax, savvy. They find out their own apps, their friends help them.

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Mohammad Mozumder: they use dictionary, they use good looking writing. You know. What's Youtube to know that

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Mohammad Mozumder: they make an edit videos.

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Mohammad Mozumder: One respondents that they exchange engagement ring over video call. They used snapchat for picture picture. And we made for listening to was really a sermon.

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Mohammad Mozumder: Learn tailoring. And all this stuff. And they open accounts online like social media accounts. Email. The sense of privacy is good as well. So the email is an app. I know. you may be familiar with that. It's no good because it's not good for protecting the private information. What's F in, on the other hand, is great.

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Mohammad Mozumder: so vital skill continues. They learn Lane language like English, Tamil, Arabic Hindi would do all, all the respondents Their first language is Bingoli, but they learn all these languages

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Mohammad Mozumder: They what's Pakistani drama Bingoly, moderate the film, listen to gazelle, and then they learned the number and calculation they use. Some of the muse calculator app on their phone. One of them became mechanic.

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Mohammad Mozumder: One of them turn, learn tailoring cool enough to scale, of course, and customer service. And see, this is an interesting code. The 22 year old Cnz. Driver in burial. They say, now I do a lot of things for my job. I need to share a design when I design something. I'll just need that one calls me and ask Broad that. Do you have that design? Then, if I have the design, I share it. Via telegram. That's an app or email, or Whatsapp, or what's needed. I exchange things with others.

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Mohammad Mozumder: vital skill continuously. They lots of financial use, lots of financial apps to be cash and all go. These are cash, our financial apps. You can transfer cash and send balances and everything they receive. Children's stipend, pay, utility bill insurance premium, which is Internet package exchange of receive international remittances as well. On their phone.

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Mohammad Mozumder: They use uncommon app, for example, like to light motion, animation, a picture art and and stuff like that.

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Mohammad Mozumder: And one responder said they use paid birds for commercial use.

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Mohammad Mozumder: They learn dancing, you know, on Youtube. Someone performer says, a 19 year old mail in wrong. Put the lip sync using the phone.

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Mohammad Mozumder: They seek employment opportunities not only within the country but overseas as well. So, for example, lots of people go to the Middle East, so they need to send their documents to like photos and possible. They take the picture and then send it over what's up. And that's how they collect. you know, they get

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Mohammad Mozumder: tops overseas. They exchange documents instantly. Animation, snapchat, capcut emails, and video editing. These are all these things. It's, you see, 80 year old day lever in my machine.

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Mohammad Mozumder: He just completed our attended until Grade 5.

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Mohammad Mozumder: And he does that on the phone one another, as you say, learn to block the the female respondent. They say unwanted contents. They know how to block that

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Mohammad Mozumder: they know how to lock their profile.

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Mohammad Mozumder: Blacklist unwanted users and another respondents say they use the phone for election campaign. So vital skill conclusion. So what in summary, it says, the seemingly impossible becomes possible in their life. With the

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Mohammad Mozumder: help of this little machine, at least temporarily.

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Mohammad Mozumder: The this, with the help of this phone.

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Mohammad Mozumder: They brought home the opportunities to provide for the self.

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Mohammad Mozumder: maybe temporarily, but these are significant opportunities for their life.

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Mohammad Mozumder: So they learn to venture into uncharted territories, they make unknown allies and noble, so subjectification. In this process they become only a different person.

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Mohammad Mozumder: Communications. You see, networking friendship, family beyond border and customer services are like for

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Mohammad Mozumder: different types. I have some sentences in Bengali. It's just original, right? I I mean, when I try to translate them. The the masses is often get lost. You can also see what Bengali looks like in writing. So here they do all those things networking.

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Mohammad Mozumder: You know the the family members who leave or work in the Middle East. They often get in touch with their families than children almost every day over phone

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Mohammad Mozumder: see communication to this section. You see.

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Mohammad Mozumder: they what's news like Tik Tok, Facebook on BBC and on Youtube channel of the news channels. That's how they collect the news or what's and see them. They receive notifications from banks. They learn religious rituals on the phone by watching. Let's say, Youtube videos. They learn different norms and values and modesty.

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Mohammad Mozumder: And one female respondent said, you know she uses the phone

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Mohammad Mozumder: to, she said, beakering with a with a person that be coming gives her pleasure. They said it unburdened me. So it's kind of in a telepathic use of the phone.

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Mohammad Mozumder: and you can see social transactions as well. So to that this conclusion, a communication section. You see.

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Mohammad Mozumder: viral connections that beyond physical mobility we have cloud mediated sensibilities and screen-sponsored mortality. So they use

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Mohammad Mozumder: lots of. They watch lots of video contents. They get news alert and out.

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Mohammad Mozumder: For example, religiously, in sensitive count contents makes them angry. So

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Mohammad Mozumder: they that. That's what happens sometimes

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Mohammad Mozumder: association. So the mode of conversations, even though many of them don't have formal education. But some of them use lots of English words, because that's how they communicate. They communicate, and they learn new words.

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Mohammad Mozumder: There's sociability. It says. The by playing around with this device and new apps they'd learn to associate themselves in a many different in many different ways. They watch, you know, games.

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Mohammad Mozumder: team and cricket, for example, was different. Serials on on their phone

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Mohammad Mozumder: gaming is another big thing, a lot. Many of them are addicted to games obsessed. They watch channels, comedy tennis. They was like religious sermon on the phone that's pretty popular in a Muslim is already countries. So the Muslim religious callers, they come to Youtube and record video. So lots of people watch that.

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Mohammad Mozumder: and 120

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Mohammad Mozumder: 8 year mail is is a mobile load business person in Gajibo. We say it's something interesting, you said in in the past. They said they would. they would, you know, have affairs nowadays. What they do during it is that they what's Youtube? And they also was the religious salmon. The popular was

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Mohammad Mozumder: so this, he said, see the change? And another responding says they raised B. So if the person you know, when the person raises the bars they had to see how to treat those birds, how to raise them, how to feed them. So they watch Youtube channels to do that.

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Mohammad Mozumder: And another interesting thing is the collective ownership of phone. So you have a family, and within the family, not all members can afford to have a phone. So they have one phone. But they share mothers, son, daughter, father. They all share the collective ownership. Music is a big thing

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Mohammad Mozumder: mit Ctl, and they what you know, listen to lots of music. So association. To conclude this section. So the known unknowns ring the familiar wall. Reappearance reappears in unfamiliar voice 2.

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Mohammad Mozumder: Exoticization of pleasure, including religiousity and spirituality. They search for solace in seemingly strange, eccentric realms. For example, music.

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Mohammad Mozumder: you know, in of their choice. I have a documentary, unfortunately, I can't show it here, so I'm going to move on. So so mobile makes bearable, almost unbearable life.

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Mohammad Mozumder: so mobile. This device sometimes helped them, brought back friends, seemed, or deemed lost. The re-engineered commitments towards each other, towards the family, towards the society, towards the State, perhaps.

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Mohammad Mozumder: and the turn toward the renewed importance of absent presence.

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Mohammad Mozumder: So what is the absent presence? For example, the migrant workers who live in the Middle East? They're not present in person, but they're always present. Virtually they talk to their kids always. They take care of them, they learn what they do, they instruct them, guide them. So absent presence is really, really important

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Mohammad Mozumder: in this process. What happens? The device is itself redefined. Mobile phone takes a new meaning and significance. Someone compared it to their in a lever. So it's a vital connection. It's kind of a beat of the heart. The great educator, the Savior, for the underprivileged groups. The key is the device itself.

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Mohammad Mozumder: What is the affluent for the affluent? It is mainly the acquaintance. I started the affluent groups earlier, so I saw their friends were really crucial here, these underprivileged groups. For them the device is the most important thing, because often they don't have the device.

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Mohammad Mozumder: Some of the creative expression. You see how they customize their screen their home face. So they what you can see here a gamer that's his and the 2 other pictures on the right side. These are the 2 female users. So you can see how the red decorate their phone sets and that speak what they are at least a lot about what they are

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Mohammad Mozumder: and a creative ways. They don't know how to write. So they came up with their own ways of saving their context. You see, instead of writing their name, they use codes. That's how they use this in, you know context, save their context and find out their numbers.

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Mohammad Mozumder: Collective owners. You see, it's a

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Mohammad Mozumder: it's an account used by both mother and so on.

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Mohammad Mozumder: They operated jointly.

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Mohammad Mozumder: So mobile is live. I'm trying to conclude, wrap it up

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Mohammad Mozumder: expanded. So what did with the access to this mobile phone and the Internet? Often that expanded people's geographies that help them reclaim public spaces? They don't. They're not confined to their homes, only they now contact with people outside of the country.

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Mohammad Mozumder: They see contents produced in many different parts of the world.

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Mohammad Mozumder: So these nest and yet Trans Bounds Association, unlike the bounded solidarity. So the previous studies, they said, these group often remain in bounded solidarity. But here I see, it's trans bound they cr transcend the boundaries.

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Mohammad Mozumder: They're not tele cocoons like within themselves. They don't belong. They don't keep themselves confined. They can be called. That's the the word. I use the domestic alien, since they always use their phone. They like love to talk to their friends online people around them in their family. Sometimes. They don't

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Mohammad Mozumder: feel like they're their friends, are they? You know they're known people that I use the word domestic alien they use. They still have home within their village. Perhaps many of them don't know them, so they become kind of a domestic alien.

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Mohammad Mozumder: So the device that comes to life with the social actuation of human bodies turns out to be key in materializing the vitality of a social being.

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Mohammad Mozumder: mobile as social, beaten machine. Other studies previously say, you know, create social connections, mesh connections, such steel central. But nowadays for those it's vital, mobile is life, mesh connections meaning you make connections with people that you are not familiar with. So you mesh you, you make new connections. Those are

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Mohammad Mozumder: increasingly important.

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Mohammad Mozumder: the invisible yet unavoidable connections. It fills the empty moments of everyday life. It represents the community to which they belong in a lot. You famously say, technology society made durable. Now I see here society is technology made invisible.

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Mohammad Mozumder: So then, the technology is

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Mohammad Mozumder: here. You see, society is embedded. But you don't see it's it becomes invisible. In that sense society is technology made invisible.

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Mohammad Mozumder: Finally, to conclude, I I invite you to reflect some of on some of the things. Imagine spending a whole day without the phone.

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Mohammad Mozumder: Would your fingers tingle?

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Mohammad Mozumder: What would the means like?

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Mohammad Mozumder:  someone missing the actual fingers? So this is the actual quote from someone is saying, can you imagine life without a mobile phone.

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Mohammad Mozumder: So that's that's what is from me. Thank you so much.

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Elena Gavrilina: Thank you so much, Mohammad. If your Some people have a question to report.

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Elena Gavrilina: Mohammed, you are very welcome.

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Mohammad Mozumder: Sure, please. I'll be happy to answer them.

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Elena Gavrilina: We have a microphone for the room, so if you ask, that's great, that's great.

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If you could, you stop sharing your screen to. So we can see? everyone who's online.

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Mohammad Mozumder: Thank you. You're welcome.

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Was there any questions

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Elena Gavrilina: you have any question.

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Yeah. Okay, yes. So, thank you, Mohammed. Very nice. And we came to know that what is happening in Bangladesh and how youth are fascinated towards mobile phone. And what are the multiple functions they can do?

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They can connect. But how do you think embedding of technology with the societies?

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Is it good. It is bad.

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how it is going to transform. I mean, it is already in the process of transform missiles. So how do you visualize the society

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when we are visualizing the industry, I think, say no previous there was industrial products on 4 0. So how do you see what kind of society is going to happen.

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Is there any new kind of society is coming up?

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And if yes, the water that conceptualizes niger sociologist.

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Mohammad Mozumder: Okay, should I answer now. Or.

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Elena Gavrilina: yeah. Okay, all right.

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Mohammad Mozumder: Thank you for the question. first of all.

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Mohammad Mozumder: you know, sociology. We try to say, we don't want to be normative. We want to remain to some extent objective. So in that sense, whether it's going to a good direction or bad direction, instead of on setting the question in that way. Let me just put it this way. So these people.

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Mohammad Mozumder: almost without any formal education.

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Mohammad Mozumder: without the device. They are like handicapped.

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Mohammad Mozumder: They're like blind. They don't have anything with that device. It's the wall to them. It's like life without the device. They don't know how to talk to friends. They don't know what to what's going on in the world. So with with the access to this device, they learn to do things they could never imagine.

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Mohammad Mozumder: at least in the past. When they did not have the device, they could do

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Mohammad Mozumder: so. These with this device they have new opportunities. But this new, this new device comes with its own anxiety. Some of them got edited. Some of them are having trouble within their families, so it has both sides. I wanted to focus on some of the optimistic sites just because we have less research, less attention to these positive aspects in a way. So that's what I was trying to do. Thank you.

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Elena Gavrilina: Yeah, thank you. Other questions.

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I don't think there's any other questions in the room. Oh, there is. Yeah, just a second.

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thank you, Mohammed, for your very interesting presentation. Since this is a session about bio politics, I was thinking, perhaps, on posing the following comments, last question

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it seems that by the story you're telling is kind of how it tells how mobile phones seem to not only provide life, but they are so necessary for everyday life that they become kind of an extension of the body right in a way. So I was kind of one reading, maybe, and perhaps in that context it, it's the mobile phone is a sort of a kind of a

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technological kind of extension of the body as sort of a chip or something like that, but

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in a different way. I don't know if you would look at it like that, or maybe like the first steps of this kind of I don't know how would you call it? But kind of inserting technology into the body in a way, so so to speak.

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Mohammad Mozumder: Yeah, I mean, I I totally agree. It's kind of an extension of their life. I'm sorry about the noise. It's outside, you know, a prayer calling for prayer. It happens 5 times a day.

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Mohammad Mozumder: So you're absolutely right. This is kind of an extension of their body, this part of their life. Without it. They're kind of handicapped, but it has its own problems. But for these people this device is an immense. It brings immense opportunities.

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Mohammad Mozumder: and of course, as I, as I mentioned earlier, it has its own trouble. So I wanted to focus on some of the good things that have previously received less attention, at least scholarly attention.

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Mohammad Mozumder: So that that's all I wanted to say at this point.

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Thank you.

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Elena Gavrilina: Yeah. you have some question more.

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Elena Gavrilina: Oh,

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no other questions in the room. So

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Elena Gavrilina: okay.

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Elena Gavrilina: so

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Elena Gavrilina: as I understood, we don't have the last speaker from our program with us

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Elena Gavrilina: and the we have a big time for discussion.

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Elena Gavrilina: and the as a chair of our session, I would say, all of you. really, thank you for interesting reports and discussion, because, you know, we we can see as technology change our life.

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Elena Gavrilina: you may every day.

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Elena Gavrilina: And the that's the theme of for

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Elena Gavrilina: technology assessment. And I hope we have many possibilities to research that changes and challenges.

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Elena Gavrilina: And now I I want to invite some people who is in the room or in

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Elena Gavrilina: Say, it's say something for

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Elena Gavrilina: the same, and we have time for 3 discussion about that. you're very welcome.

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 Elena, did you just did you want people to raise topics, or did you want

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to them to comment on the talks?

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Elena Gavrilina: Oh, That's problems. My, my, my microphone. You you don't hear.

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Elena Gavrilina: Yeah, it's it's okay. I just was just clarifying that to it. That's all

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Elena Gavrilina: that. That's all. Because we don't have last speaker, and that's it. And they said about importance of this team and the changing and challenges from technologies to our our real life, and invite to to people speak as a free discussion in in the room or in

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Elena Gavrilina: to to to speak about it, because we have a big time to free discussion but it's nobody want to speak.

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Elena Gavrilina: You can stop our session, and I really thankful for everybody. to be here. Thank you so much.

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Elena Gavrilina: So it

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Mohammad Mozumder: can. I just ask one question.

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Mohammad Mozumder: does anyone want to speak? Mohammed? Okay, okay, no comment. Yeah. Yeah. I just want to say thank you so much for giving me the opportunity. I would also request you and and everyone listening. If you have some suggestions for me

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Mohammad Mozumder: to improve this the draft. How at least I I need some theoretical links. I'm sure this is not happening only in this country. In many parts of the world there are similar things happening. So how to theorize them, how to put them into mainstream social theories. If you could suggest me on that front. That would be wonderful. Thank you.

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Elena Gavrilina: Okay.

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Elena Gavrilina: thank you. My comment for your

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Elena Gavrilina: input.

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and the maybe that somebody wants to to ask something. Yeah, mom, I can just give you one idea. I think you can explore on the line. Sure as you say, that the mobile has become extension of their body and their life. So if it is the case, then can we consider them as a kind of cyborg?

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What I mean? Sandra Hardings and other people have talked about. And when the technology get embedded in the human body, then probably we are leading toward a new kind of society which is conceptualized as society. When we have the industry. 4 0, then society fight, you know.

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and the characteristics of that society is seamless. Transmission between social world and natural world. I mean technological words. So there will be no gap between technological world and social world. There will be continuous flow of information. And not only this continuous flow of information, but also continuous flow of your cloning of your biological memories.

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If you see the how the artificial intelligence is going to To chase the and save the entire structure. And one way, if people are so much blue and so much data they are going to provide. And on the distal footprint. How is this? Data is going to be utilized? I think some days someone will capture the entire data, their activities and they will be in a position to know more than what they themselves know.

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I think this is the situation which is going to happen because you are narrated only the positive side, what life it has given to them.

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There are, I think, this kind of studies have been conducted for the last 20 years, that how mobile technology has improved their job opportunities, employment opportunities and connectivities. But it has also I mean, there are the studies also shows that mobile connection or Internet connection does not bring the new relationship is rather helping, is strengthening. So only just one had the face to face relationship in the beginning. You cannot have.

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Is 1010

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totally a meaningful relations in the cyber words. Thank you.

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Mohammad Mozumder: Thank you for the insights. I'll keep them in my mind for sure.

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Elena Gavrilina: Thank you. And maybe it may be. I want to add something, because I think, the productive to the research extension of a technological extension of our life is maybe I intend to do no

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Elena Gavrilina:  precisely can show us how technology will be

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Elena Gavrilina: the main state in our life is our extension is is hybrid.

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Elena Gavrilina: you know. I I think it could be for that.

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Mohammad Mozumder: sure.

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Mohammad Mozumder: Yes.

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Elena Gavrilina: thank you for this. Thank you for your support. Yeah.

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Elena Gavrilina: So. guys.

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Elena Gavrilina:  we have time for free discussion. And

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Elena Gavrilina: if somebody wants to say something

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Elena Gavrilina: that's we will be great

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Elena Gavrilina: but it's not We can finish our session.

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Elena Gavrilina: And the I am really thankful for all of you.

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Elena Gavrilina: because it was really interesting to discuss different cases in

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Elena Gavrilina:  interaction technologies and society. And he wants in context of biopolitics. because technology can

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Elena Gavrilina: control us.

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Elena Gavrilina: not technology is subjectivity. Yeah, but but power can use it for control us

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Elena Gavrilina: and call that is,

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Elena Gavrilina: greatest example for this.

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Elena Gavrilina: and the I'm I'm

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Elena Gavrilina: types of for a change of subjectivity and digital subjectivity. And the cases with mobile phone. that's really important for understanding when you type of society. I don't know which type of society we do

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Elena Gavrilina: kind of in the future.

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Elena Gavrilina: but it will be I would type. not the is

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Elena Gavrilina:  as we have before.

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Elena Gavrilina: So thank you for speakers. Thank you for people who ask questions.

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Elena Gavrilina: and I hope we will. we. We will be in touch and we will make new to searches, and we will discuss that in oven.

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Elena Gavrilina: scientific and north. on the scientific.

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Elena Gavrilina: alright

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Elena Gavrilina:  Oh, I'm sorry.

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Elena Gavrilina: I I I don't remember who we're right. What an English. But I I you understand. Yeah, it's okay. Thank you for your support. So I I I want to say many thanks. to all of us, and If nobody wants to say we should finish our session now.

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Mohammad Mozumder: all right. Thank you so much. Once again.

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Elena Gavrilina: Thank you so much.

