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Arshi Jahan: so Hello, everyone. Very good morning. From this side. this. study. The name of my presentation is the epistemological function of visual questioning. The visual representation of dull it community in development. Of course, I would like to stick to the time

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Arshi Jahan: Esther has already mentioned. So yes.

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Arshi Jahan: starting with this, I am updating my objective

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Arshi Jahan: and the purpose of the study. The first is to focus on the representation of people from Dallas community, through which one in development is, course. Second, how visual can image. We can construct marginalized narratives and making them look more vulnerable, marking it as their only identity.

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Arshi Jahan: The third one is, what do we see in visual narrative and what remains overlooked?

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I. Okay

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Arshi Jahan: for the method and approach. I have taken up an interdisciplinary collaborative approach where therein I will be undertaking 3 disciplinary standpoints. sociology, cultural studies, and media study.

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Arshi Jahan: This work is representing a theoretical point of view wherein an effort is made to use some relevant theoretical standpoint from 3 disciplines and use them as an analytical framework.

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Arshi Jahan: I will be critically examining each theoretical argument, my which might extend the scope of this study. and this work is limited to a generalized use of concept. For the purpose of this study

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Arshi Jahan: the work would attempt to explore the interconnectedness of these theoretical standpoint that would call a cumulatively draw some conclusions.

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Arshi Jahan: Yes.

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but basically defining that it as a category.

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Arshi Jahan: So for just getting a historical overview. The roots of that is, oppression goes back to the origin of caste system, and using religion in the philosophy of of a caste is contained in the monicility which is a sacred Hindu text dating from second century Bce.

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Arshi Jahan: Untouchable outcast communities were forbidden to join in the religious and social life of the community were confined to menial task, that that were viewed as polluting, such as animal slaughter and leather working, which is still prevalent in many parts of the country.

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Arshi Jahan: according to the census 2,011, the scheduled caste population. So the Dulles category comes under the said scheduled cast or category

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Arshi Jahan: it is consist of 16.6 of India's total population, which is a significant rise from 2 2,001 census results this count

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Arshi Jahan: for a reorientation in policies, for overall inclusive development, for example, suggested increase in the reservation, in the sector of jobs, education, and other.

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Arshi Jahan: As we are 18.5 of total rural area and 12.6% October. It's clearly fine that the population is higher in rural areas. So the list, it is a subsequent word which means opera and downtown.

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Arshi Jahan: The world was appropriated in 1,970 by untouchable writers and activists, to describe their community, both in the present and in historical content, and, as mentioned, it comes under the category of scheduled costs. Beginning with the study center movement, led by writers in 1,970 is the Tombal. It acquired a radical new meaning of self identification that signified a new opposition.

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Arshi Jahan: So this is a little political historical background. So today the tom is widely used in the Indian public sphere, especially a Catholic, and literally feeds

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Arshi Jahan: for the 19 nineties can be observed as a dk.to renewed activism with national public debate over the extension of affirmative action. The reservation in public sector, higher education made visible even cities, metropolitan areas. Largely.

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Arshi Jahan: this done, is actually so fundamentally based on the political icon, Dr. Dean, who led over which was led by professionals, delete elite include doctors, lawyers, teachers, ex service personnel, the Fc. Association of public sector employees in the Railway Bank Food Cooperation, that is, number of

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Arshi Jahan: Parliament in various parties, and so on.

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Arshi Jahan: So then, so here I'm digging with the theatrical background. So when I'm saying for sociological perspective, I'm specifically questioning, what does the visual communicate so specifically talking about border large or concept where he's talking about the models of the real

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Arshi Jahan: is calling image. So where he's saying that images are part of socially constructed reality with authority, shape, collective imagination. However, it seems contradictory factor here that we think of image, not just some as a murder of the real, but also a construction of noble reality which is based on authoritative ideas. As a priority.

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Arshi Jahan: Further to this, for example, if then it's body, if if any image is represented in a distressed condition, for example, maybe in any kind of advertisement or any poster, maybe the during political really rallies. They talk about their

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Arshi Jahan: upcoming policies for the opera in their memorandum. So if they present, that is in a distressed condition. So the question is, what this picture is denoting.

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Another very important question that it raises is the question of agency. Who is speaking for who has the agency to

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Arshi Jahan: speak on behalf of Zoom? So

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Arshi Jahan: it it talks about who are the creators of that those kind of visual who are who are preparing this sort of narrative on behalf of the operate those who can't have the authority of for maybe you know, writing their own ideas.

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Arshi Jahan: Further, an image then becomes more than a product of perception of the Creator, but a result of collective knowledge and intention so visual can be seen as a medium of cognition that transmit ideas. Therefore it is important to understand visual strategy, that to understand what of the visual, which further requires an inquiry into the how, where we are specifically talking about the strategy. So this

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Arshi Jahan: collective knowledge, which is constantly in construction through visuals. it's it's it's sort of it's sort of a strategical action. So it somehow questions that.

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Arshi Jahan: okay, further to this is our cultural perspective, which is top specifically pointing out the ideological apparatus. So according to the culturally determined meaning of an image, it's not just a product of a given medium, the video or picture, but a product of ourselves as we generate images of our own imagination and postal perception.

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Arshi Jahan: the first, second, that an image is not just a define with visibility, but also the whole symbolic meanings and mental frame of the created. Again, going back to the idea of how

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Arshi Jahan: so the authority of the Creator and the ideas of the creators impacts a lot

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Arshi Jahan: for the it. It's emphasiz on the quotes the impact of these one phones, collective beliefs. It appropriate cultural and native belief against the minority for the widening, existing social differences and in inequalities.

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Arshi Jahan: Jenny Janet

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Arshi Jahan: describes the phenomenon of group think that lead to a course. This form of communication. So can we imagine that this course, this communication tends to create a pattern of conformity within audience that would inevitably promote persistent soft cultural norms. So whatever we are communicating through

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Arshi Jahan: images, there is high possibility that it will end up becoming not an individual idea, but a collective. It will become a collective idea of some group or

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Arshi Jahan: a collective sort of idea which might have which might

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Arshi Jahan: what to say. promote a sort of a our already existing social inequality.

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Arshi Jahan: So cause this communication will offer you. There is a sublime tool by the powerful and authoritative regards stakeholders to exercise its control over Martian population. According to layers.

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Arshi Jahan: the cultural stereotypes are maintained by cultural processes in the society through communication process and not to forget. communication is a very important part of society that that helps in a lot of culture processes. That goes on.

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Arshi Jahan: The third is media studies where we are largely talking about it. Impact on audience.

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Arshi Jahan: The first theory is the hypodermic needle model that by haroldness wall, which is also known as magic bullet theory that explains audiences are directly affected by what they see and what they hear.

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Arshi Jahan: who are supposed to be big and passive.

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Arshi Jahan: So, according to the media, in the form of content, it can inject ideas, perceptions into passive audience, who would not receive, but also belief passively, without questioning.

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Arshi Jahan: So the theory suggest that audience is power powerless towards reducing the impact of

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Arshi Jahan: message. So there is one example also from this, the movie trump of the bill there. It has been used as a propaganda to inject pro this. promoting Nazi calls into German audience

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Arshi Jahan: the lastly, another one theory is cultivation theory

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Arshi Jahan: that creates the audience as passive. It's for just a repetitive exposure to the same message. For example, again, I'm talking about editing when, during political release the call kind of banners that come out to promote their prop memorandum.

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Arshi Jahan: It can have an effect on our audience attitudes, and that means and it can decide that the more frequent exposure to particular messages any form will more likely to alter audience ideas accordingly.

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Arshi Jahan: So here, I'm specifically focusing on what are the factors that can that are involved in this course construction in June? So these are 4 fundamental.

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Arshi Jahan: you know, if factors that can affect. this course, construction in any Ngo that's a very basic level for stakeholder kind of funders that are coming in network and alliances. For example, if Ngos are, have some political affiliations, they are supporting some political

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Arshi Jahan: parties, so they will automatically function accordingly. Third, fundamental and and principle values. What are the values that all these Ngos are following. The third is the Csr model of development. That is the

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Arshi Jahan: Yes corporate social responsibility, which is an extremely important factor as it described corporate zone within the wider, formal, and informal institutions. For so it is interest and concerns. It reflects norms rules, beliefs, integrity of Tsr stakeholders where that at those are expressed in

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Arshi Jahan: practices. So Csr activities basically take responsibility for the interest of society consists of corporate policy programs and strategies. And you provide assistance to corporations implementing and achieving various goals, such as handling different social welfare programs of testing, assisting them.

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Arshi Jahan: and campaigning for G of to gain benefits. And it it is in this due process that high chances the the the ideas of these corporate stakeholders might reflect in the back practices of Ngos.

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Arshi Jahan: Further, these are the few images for references. Where if you can see the first image, it's a graphic representation of that. It's a mother. It's it's of population in the heart. A number is a poster. It's a it's for child, right? Campaign. The top child neighbor. The third is. it's a

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Arshi Jahan: some sort of political rally. It it's a shobi, for of the link to highlight discrimination in. So, for example, I have taken the these images for references. And

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Arshi Jahan: further, what I observed is the dominant expressions for that. Listen, visual and narratives remain the words which will always keep on recording in whatever we read and whatever we see are they underdeveloped, agitated, Gil Shane under knowledge, helpless, scared.

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Arshi Jahan: distress, traumatized, and highly vulnerable? What's this one less dominant in the narrative remain. The words and the expressions are joy, happiness, and his developing and aspirations.

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Arshi Jahan: So when I say that this terminology of visual. So I'm largely talking about the kind of knowledge that they end up

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Arshi Jahan: producing in the mindset audience. So I'm I'm I'm writing as what we see, what is what we overlook. So we obviously see what remains very dominant in the all the narratives that we get. So for me, in most dominant narrative. Positive affirmations have hardly found spaces in the various. This courses on oppression or done, and Martian life, community

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Arshi Jahan: discourses around joy, happiness, and positive expeditions almost to remain non-existent part of a large discourse on cast and oppression, as evident in our everyday life. The offline and online content remains more focused

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on the instances of brutality and dehumanization of Dallas, and this can be viewed as an import

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Arshi Jahan: victimization, which is because of the exaggeration of dominant narratives that have left led to an internalization of office identity. Further, the historical representation in silencing of direct voices have immensely contributed in the misrepresentation.

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Arshi Jahan: Therefore, the experiences of dehumanization of that is, have made it difficult even for this spectator to look beyond their social location and dominant narrative.

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Arshi Jahan: while discrimination in many forms connect them together as the bearer of same experiences and emotions. However, the resilience of Dali can take the form of dominant narratives which can possibly make them look empowering and hopeful.

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Arshi Jahan: So a focus on mental health upset where done is, issues are treated with much sensitivity, with the purpose of not suppressing the traumatic experience, but healing through conversations on joy. I can possible possibility, possibly fulfill a holistic idea of development. So just to add

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Arshi Jahan: a brief conclusion which is which has been uplooked out through this, the interdisciplinary approach as method. It can be said, that visuals constitute an important part of narrative in the development sector and paramel to. In other disciplines.

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Arshi Jahan: Visuals are significant and effective in narrating the reality which can be a social construction alongside. Visuals are also subjected to the Creator's own perceptions, ideas, experiences, and biases, whereas the spectator at the receiving end remains. A passive viewer.

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Arshi Jahan: Visuals carries ideas along with images, they transmit knowledge in implicit ways.

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Arshi Jahan: Therefore the study is not, overlooking the traumatized experiences of done it as a group. As a group, however, it is trying to imagine a narrative that is built on join and healing that can be a form of resistance as well. That counter normalized operates. Therefore it is important to rethink, reflect, and rewrite the narrative on the A.

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Arshi Jahan: Thank you.

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Arshi Jahan: I think I have. Okay, 20Â min exact. Thank you. Thank you. You are on time, and thank you so much, and we will get back to you after a while. But before that I request Dr.

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from Poland.

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his Faculty of Sociology Department of social practice, research and theory.

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let me see how to.

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I I think we should leave this. I don't know

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Arshi Jahan: should I stop sharing. No, yeah. You you stop sharing.

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Thank you. and his topic also is very relevant to that very theme. Visual representation of rural development challenge, of using visual research method instead in rural areas. Maybe your case could be

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the Poland case. I get okay. No, go ahead. Thank you very much.

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Hello, everyone. I'm very happy to be here.

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my name is Khashoggovsky. I come from Poland. I'm also happy to present today, because I finally

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not suffering from the deadlock. So

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I will try to describe some my experiences from research project about the Rural development but let's say, let's start at the beginning. I would like to say that the the visual methods in sociology have come a very long and bumpy road At first they were treated with caution

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as an invention of researchers who could not scope with traditional methods and techniques. Then with great enthusiasm.

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based on the belief that visuals may provide that data that are usually unavailable using other methodological attitudes. And eventually they became a relatively well established part

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of the field of sociological research methods and techniques.

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it is also worth to mention that if we if I talk about usual methods, or when when people talk about visual methods it. It can be treated in free ways. First, visual methods refer to those practices when images try to stimulate or create other data. For example, in

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for the elicitation interview, when we use images to stimulate people to talk about other things

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the second thing the second way of describing visual methods. When we treat visual data, we give images as a data, and we analyze them. For example, in qual qualitative and quantitative way. And the third way visual methods. And as a way of creating narration in films in photo exhibitions. In my presentation, I will focus on the mainly on the third one.

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So I will try to talk about visual narrations. But not only we can also mention

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Other things. Of course, the development of visual research creates new challenges of using them.  Here are some new new challenges

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of using using visual research methods and techniques. this is not all of them. But if we try to. mention some of them, the these are, for example, the relationship between visual data, and that data obtained from other senses.

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the relationship between visual data and data generated on the move in mobile research, the role of new technologies in using using visual data, some new ethical challenges related to visual research and also competencies of participants of Visual Visual research competencies related to creating and using visual data.

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These are some of the of the challenges that are mentioned in the literature. Of course there are also some others. However.

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there is one challenge that for me is very often overlooked.

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I would I would like to focus on this one today.

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the type of research in the area influences, visual research and visual methods. If we look at the tradition of using visual research in sociology, it is mainly focused on urban areas.

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Assumptions of the about the visuality of the of the city are are often transferred to other research areas, and my presentation will therefore try to focus on the on the selected specifics of using visual research in rural areas. So I will try to answer.

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are there any specific guidelines for using visual research in rural areas, and I will try to do it, using the example of the project direction

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this was funded by the European Union. in horizon 2,020 Mari's quad of scakuri actions, innovative training networks. This project aimed to study social entrepreneurship in rural areas

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and the social innovations implemented there.

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more than a dozen scientific and non-scientific institutions participated in the project. You can see the least of all of the of the organizations on the left, and they came from 7 countries.

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Ireland, Portugal, Denmark, Germany, Poland, Austria, and Greece.

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One of the project's components was a comparative visual study in selected Rural regions.

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In Portugal, in Greece and in Ireland you can see a PIN on those regions. In those 3 countries, in Portugal it was Baja Atlantejo.

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in Greece. It was a Phytis region, and in Ireland it was Balijura region.

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and in each of this region. in each of the count, in in of this country, we focus on a different topic. In Portugal we were researching, networking of local farmers. In Greece we were researching new users of farmers, traditional ways of working, and in Ireland we were researching how local community centers are created

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 an interdisciplinary research team of sociologists and for photographers created a documentary film and an online for the exhibition. Here. I can see this team also me there.

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and my presentation will be illustrated by examples from this film and from this exhibition and basing on my experiences from this project I would like to focus on 4 topics

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that may be relevant to the specifics of using visual research conducted in rural areas, particularly concerning the creation of visual loretics.

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So what are the 4 topics? The first one is cooperation with the local rural community and its ethical challenges.

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Small rural communities, such as those where we conducted our research usually work closely together.

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From my research experience, rural residents tend to be less anonymous than the urban residents. For this reason.

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obtaining content to participate in visual research is easier.

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as people are less concerned about sharing and disseminating their images.

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to talk about their lives and problems as a minor category. In Greece

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Farmers invited us to their daily meetings when they discuss the current challenges of working on Stevia farms.

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some captions from those meetings while in Ireland we participated in a Bingo game local Bingo game. It was a huge even because there was a community accumulation and a huge

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huge price. And it's been low gain in all of this cases local communities were very open to to us, and we were, happily to participate in those meetings. However, at the same time, such situations increase the danger of exploiting

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networks of local dependencies and coercing to participate in research. It is therefore necessary to ensure that all participants agree to take part in the project themselves, and that the third-party consent is used appropriately.

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The second topic is the role of the natural environment in rural visual research.

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Of course, the natural environment and the local work associated with it are among the hallmarks of rural areas.

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Hence, when collecting visual materials, it is possible to stage such situations and frames where they not such situations and frames when the natural environment forms the background. Even if dealing with such a situation in the field, may seem strange.

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In the documentary film we introduced the Ballyhura region in Ireland, but showing its natural environment, although creating this material, was quite challenging.

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We drive the car very slowly. One of us was filming through the car window. Other cars were overtaking our car on a very narrow road, however. We finally deal with this captions.

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The other example. We also, for example, asked asked to use a table and chairs, one shooting in a Stevia plantation in Greece.

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It was a combination of such elements that usually do not co-occur. Such a contrast focused more attention to specific elements of the picture, and may emphasize the role of the environment.

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The third topic is collaborative creating knowledge.

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Our research was at least partly participatory. We collaborated with the local community in creating the scenario and organizing the various things.

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this was especially important when presenting work in rural areas, we and we encourage staging certain activities that farmers know well, so that those activities became familiar also to the Abbeyans as well.

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In doing so we ask to show details and frame the details

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this way. The viewer can get more involved in the presented materials.

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a farmer on an aromatic, her plantation in Portugal talks it in details about his work while presenting the plants, the camera?

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So we can see that we are focusing on the details. He also demonstrates how some machinery on his on his farm works.

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However, it is also worth noting that rural life in that life in rural areas is usually less dynamic than in the city.

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Reproducing rural, slow life is also the task of visual materials, then it is worth looking for such situations that in cooperation with the local community will sometimes produce moments of dynamism to attract the viewers.

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we used this moment to dynamize the narrative, and at the same time to create the sense of being inside the situation we were narrating.

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which is important for me is about the perspective of the of the narration.

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Most of the materials we produced in our research was created from the perfectly for rural residents.

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They were the main protagonists of our research. We gave them voice, and they described us and showed us their lives. All the examples so far have referred to this perspective.

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however, at the same time, in the photographic exhibition, we created, basically in the project we offered another external perspective.

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These were short statements that were created by Ph. D. Students who researched those areas.

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These were brief notes from the field mark a field work supplemented by photographs the doctoral students took. They come from yet another element of the visual research carried in the direction project the visual diaries created by the Ph. D. Students.

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This external perspective of the narrative becomes an interesting addition.

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To the leading insider perspective of the area residence! It lends credence by drawing attention to what may seem everyday and unreflexive to the residents. So here are some examples of those external perspective and the visual diaries created by the Phd students.

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So in my presentation, I wanted to to point at 2 things. The first was to point out the error of visual research is its universalization regarding the area in which it is supplied.

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Rules developed in dominant urban research are only sometimes applicable to rural areas.

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The second goal was to point out, based on my own research experience, some features of visual research that can be applied to rural regions.

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so what are the guidelines for applying visual research in rural areas? I do not want to create a finite list at this point.

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instead, in my presentation, I am signaling some points. worth paying attention.

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If one wanted to list a few such guidelines, they would be, for example.

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first of all, caring for the local community, including presenting the research results, especially, for example, Claudia Mitchell points out that good practices for disseminating results. Results of visual research include locality and presentation in an atrio-create place. It is very important when we conduct such research in rural areas.

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Another point would be attention to voluntary participation in the study by all participants. Another would be emphasizing the role of the natural environment and physical setting.

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would be creating narrative from different perspectives, insider outsider. And, for example, according to European guidelines, this would mean that we are focusing rather on communication than dissemination.

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Thank you very much. If you would like to watch in detail the film I was referring to. You can type in Youtube, working with communities direction and the full film. is ready to watch there. Thank you very much.

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Thank you. Because maybe you can see it here, because we'll have Q. A. Definitely. I also have some concerns. But before that

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I request a Professor Harvey to say something.

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Thank you both both presenters for very interesting presentations.

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thinking about that, we look at a whole range of possibilities of visual sociology with regard to development.

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that we really don't know much about.

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Now we can read a narrative. We could come and describe what you saw in those villages, but when you present visually.

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you know we immediately understand. We see what was going on, and think of it as a pedagogical tool.

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Australia. I'm talking about European rural life, agricultural changes. We show these visuals. And immediately the students grasp what's going on

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if you look, look at Foucault, look at all the big names.

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That's fine. That's absolutely fine. We all do that. We have to start with some big names.

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of visual sociology, visualization of developmental problem. When I give you one example from India

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in India there was a major scandal.

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It is a major scandal with regard to primary education.

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and the scandal began at the level of World Bank and international communities with a simple video that a student took from his mobile phone in a in a class without teacher.

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no teacher, because the teacher is supposedly be there. But the teacher has other work in the village, so the school is empty. The students come, is simply a rich well of going to school. No line.

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So the student uses his mobile phone to describe their situation, and that immediately got the attention. And there are many other examples I can give from my other area of research, which is sociology of disaster, famine. And I can give you this 2,000, this 1,994 example, where

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debate, interrogate, and even destroy the dominant. And in the Indian case I think that the the story of Dallas I mean, of course, we have joy. You have happiness, but if you look at the big push.

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and the visual continuity will be not. Everything is not fine.

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as to how to leverage on this technology and on this methods. And I could just, I would end with one shot. For example, there's a movie not very well known.

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the right-wing narrative in America, where they created this meat, that there was a pizza hart outlet where Hillary Clinton and others. You know, they were involved in all kinds of nefarious activities, and this documentary exposes that. And it one

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our audience have something to say. participants. Yeah, please.

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good morning. I'm Labohi. Thank you both for the presentations. My question relates to, I suppose, to both of you, but specifically to the first presenters

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sort of external productions of images, whether of rurality or of subordinated caste identity? To what extent do they still hold power?

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and and and and to what extent do they remain authoritative in the constructions and representations of those identities or geographies?

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visual technologies and the ways in which they have dissented in some ways, or are they? It's a question, are they decentering the power authority?

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similar to the one of mine. My, my colleagues, they just like that loan. Yeah, to collect data

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many problems in those areas. So do you have to go to the field again. And I mean research with the

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it on a narrow team here in your area.

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one of the marginalized groups in India. And but it's the lady just mentioned. regarding this is new era for social media, and everyone is having this cell phone and etc. What could be the way to

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I'll alter this very approach. And and I was reminded of one of the visualization process while my was in the government, and you must be knowing my tried to

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and that was being criticized in India heavily, and I don't know whether it has had any impact to the people or the her voter. So so I think, yes, definitely, we we are very much concerned about the way it is being done. But according to you, what could be the alternative for for for for for this?

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mass masses! And for researchers like you to create a alternative thing that would be one of the concerns. And for you, sure, yes, definitely.

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your rural areas are similar to our urban areas of global south. And the way you try to mention, for example, your statement was

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other things. And then how could we retain this rural things? according to your perspective? These are my concerns for for both of the interest and please maybe we can go other way around. First.

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first restaurant from Poland. And she will be the final one. Okay? I see.

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and photographers did did some shoots, and they make a pictures and created fields. Why, the photographer, the the sociologist, it was me. I I did. about 15 interviews with people who lived in those areas.

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But we show the pictures in the context of the interviews. So if I I suggested that you can. You can see the full film on Youtube. Then you will see the all those interviews, some parts of it with context to all the the pictures.

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and of course the narrative is somehow connected, so the the the voice narrative is connected to the visual narrative, and this is also important for creating 150

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who creates the narrative and about whether the visual is always the counter hegemonic discourse

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there are the leaders of the local communities.

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And this is why we wanted to talk, not only with the leaders, not only with the managers of those social entrepreneurships, and so on. However, also with, let's say, normal residence with this Roma community, with those farmers, and so on. And

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thus we created also this bottom up narration, not only the narration of the leaders of local communities, but also the narration of

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to say that visual is always always counter-dominant. It may be a very hegemonic. discourse, yeah, exactly.

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very often targeted at different audiences, not to the scientific audiences, but, for example, to non scientific, you know, to to to those who are no specialists. And that's why I mentioned that we are not focusing on on this is

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from European Union guidelines, not dissemination, but communication. We just focus to create the communication from the beginning of the project. Not only the results to show the background of the project. That's why we also use this also. this visual diaries of the Phd students which showed the background, how it was used, and so on, and so on. And this is also a case for for creating this counter

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this, this, this this, this less more dynamic? I said, of course, this is the case. Yeah. And I don't want to say that rural region is always less dynamic than than than the than the urban ones. However, this was some our experiences from those regions, and many people in the interviews said that also the nature of their life

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in the field. That's my point could be sometimes less. Dynamism could be good for the society.

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like also open the door to new forms of collaboration between science and art, as photography also relates, and to to the artistic production of that are sociologically meaningful

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who came across those epistemological issues in your own research, and how dealt with it. And I'm I'm not saying this with the idea that we should defend science or scientific discourse against art, but rather also to recognize possibilities.

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what to what? To capture, what to stage, and so on. And also this is important to know that not all kinds of photography feeds very well into visual sociology.

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not the the artistic point of view, but rather documenting what is happening among people. And of course this creates some tension

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between scientific and art narration. However, this is a very positive tension and create something more from from this narrative. Yeah. So yes. I don't think that we need to defend science.

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This is not an opposition. This is rather something that may create something positive also, if we think that such narrations are referred not only to scientific but also non-scientific audiences.

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useful. It's not a appropriate where? Yeah, but it is all. It is very good to cooperate with documentary photographers, and if they had a ethnography sociology background, this is even better.

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Arshi Jahan: I you mentioned, what can be the alternative approach to this? To the visuals as the counter narrative. So I would like to mention that there is one of

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Arshi Jahan: journalism website known as Perry People's Archive of Dur in India that covers stories of millions of rural people in India. So it. This this particular network acts as an archive of as it saves moving past. It's a sort of for journal where they covered the stories of people across communities in rural areas. So it is so when I pay that

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Arshi Jahan: not always. you know. You see, visual can be counter narrative when I see that visual can be counter narrative. So I'm basically focusing on the various aspect of life of a person. that these visuals

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Arshi Jahan: should or must, you know, cover in order to be a counter narrative. So so in as, for example, one of is this so this so people park. I also rural India that slide. Only I saw that there was one

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Arshi Jahan: story where, dull it, women was sharing how manual scavenging is not a shame in this in their you know, in their community, when they people talk with themselves, it's more like it's it's their job in their earning this, but the now it it's it's not something that we will. we would hear very normally, because the it is considered as though.

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Arshi Jahan: you know it's it's not a good job, or it's only done by dull it. So these kind of narratives that have that are counter-hygemic. They are only

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Arshi Jahan: largely get ignored. So. Yes. So when we are looking at oppressed communities, we need to have alternative approaches of covering diverse aspects of their life. So not not just to, you know, one repetitive narrative of how you know. Oppressed they are. Yes, recognizing the fact and also recognizing the other part.

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Arshi Jahan: So basically, community people should take the central position in also, you know, giving them the child to represent themselves, which again becomes a very important part.

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maybe we can have a photograph. Come here. And then, sir.

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yeah, visual sociology, are you? You can open your camera, sure.

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So I don't have any question. But I wonder I don't know about this type of thing major social value. It is called.

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how should we contact this type? Of course, visual sociology in our classrooms? Thank you. Can I just answer that you know you can find standardized modules and visuals.

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She bought all this. This was before Mobile phone the way back.

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What she did. She bought cheap cameras, very, very cheap cameras, and distributed these candidates among Palestinians juveniles, very young, 10 year old, 12 year old.

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And what she asks that you take whatever comes to your mind, whatever you want to photograph, do that collect it. And then she came back. And

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so this is absolutely what you are hearing the narrative

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of the repressed. Now, of course, I understand the ethical issues. We are dealing with minors. Modern universities would require you to take all kinds of

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omissions. Third party, you know, absolutely. But you see it. Some of those

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I sit on those ethical communities. They are part of the sculpture and instructors. Don't forget that, so they are not on this side of the victims.

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They are not on the side of the victim. Sometimes they have to break the rules.

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If you don't bring the rules. you can't be

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so. I think that that example

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shows us very clearly

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that how you can use. And now, can you imagine what you can do with mobile phone? And this is being done. This has been done, so one danger is falling into the trap of Populism. That, of course, the right to in media is very active. The State corporate

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propaganda. You know the whole advertising industries. But then you also look at, you know, writers or filmmakers, you know, making people. I had a long conversation with Mira and Ia. You know, when she came to give some courses in Abu Dhabi

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that the first feel she made here in a big way, Salam Bombay

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that created a huge interest. Of course, you know, people knew about slums in Bombay, the largest clubs in the world, and so on.

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But the visualization from the movie, and that that was like the grandfather of later on the movie that got the Oscar and all that.

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But that set in nutrients. So there are many, many examples I can think of from the

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from and there many other examples from.

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So it plays a very effective role. And I remember teaching a whole course, not as part of the course, of course, based on Michael Moore's movies.

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you know, and that's an example of comprehensive humidity that they can drop on many of the shortcuts, on

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on American society based on my, he works and the students who had no idea about what America was all about. They saw the other side of the American Society

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that went, you know, completely unreported.

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That's not the far-based news that the American victims of 9 over 11 didn't get covered in America, they were taken to Cuba.

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So here's no one knew that honestly.

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and Michael Moore exposed that to his visual effort in his movies. So there is a huge deal of potential that need to be realized. So I go back to Manuela's talk yesterday.

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and she said that Eurasia

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is one of the issues that we have to fight with, and these are the examples of in Asia as we can

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go back to, and you know, inlive in them to visualization.

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Thank you very much. What you mentioned about this technique to give the photo cameras to the participants

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is a great example of the research technique which is called photo voice.

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And this is very often used in participatory visual research. When you ask local communities to create visuals by themselves. So our

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perspective was a different one. It was. The researchers created the the visuals. However, there are very many projects when the the local community creates it. And then it is really those participants. participants centered. Yeah. And this is only one example of visual research technique and somehow connecting it to your question. There are very

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many other visual research techniques that are well established in sociological methodology. This is, especially for the elicitation interview.

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This is a so-called working with video when people walk together in some places, and this is recorded on the camera, and later we can also

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watch this together and discuss it together. This photographic observation, this is analyzing secondary data that came from media that came from social media especially, and so on. So there are very many courses of visual sociology.

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No, no, there are also quantitative ones. However, there are usually a qualitative focus, but there are also quantitative

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kinds of analyzes. For example, when using when analyzing a huge amount of visual data and doing some such statistics in it. Yeah. yeah. So so, of course. if some of you would like to implement visual sociology courses at your your universities, I can also give you some suggestions.

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So with this remark, I think we should. We should close this session. Thank you very much for both the presenters. Rc.

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Very, very early morning. You are preparing this, and for us it was okay. It's a

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and thank you for being here as well. So shall we have a photograph right here. Why not you? Come?

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Yeah. Come here a bit closer.

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Yeah. I also give my

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camera.

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Yeah.

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So the visual as well physical.

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Arshi Jahan: I will also take one picture. We'll share this with you as she thank you

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would have your. I don't have your email, but we might be. Yeah, we'll find it. Please say Hi to root Mini and for us, sure that I met her yesterday only on the occasion of Eid.

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Okay, you you open your to. Okay, very good. Thank you so much, sir. Thank you for your feedback. Wait for a while, because our police friend also want to have one photograph.

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Thank you very much.

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Option.

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Yeah, yeah, with the visual and physical both.

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Thank you for coming to our session.

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And thank you for all to join this. Yeah, thank you.

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I will be happy to meet you, you are, see?

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Arshi Jahan: Sure, sir. Sure, thank you so much.

