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2 min left. Thank you. And first presenter is Victoria. Dudina.

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Online discourse of vaccine hesitancy concerning Covid-nineteen vaccination in Russian language social media.

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The flow is yours. Very much.

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Thank you very much, Dior Corex and organizers for this session and for inviting me to theorks and organizers for this session and for inviting me to give this presentation devoted to online discourse.

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Is it? Quite loud. To online discourse of vaccine hesitancy, concerning COVID vaccination. And social media.

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So what's in hesitancy refers to the lie in acceptance of or refusal of vaccination despite availability of vaccination services.

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And vaccine hesitancy is considered by the World Health Organization as one of the global threats to human health and as a growing challenge for immunization program.

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Globally one in 5 children still do not receive routine life save any immunizations. And an estimate 1.1 million children still die each year of diseases that could be prevented by vaccines.

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That already exists. The problem of vaccine hesitancy is also relevant to Russian federation according to the way conducted in the period of COVID vaccination campaign.

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31% of respondents were not ready to be vaccinated against COVID or formed it difficult to answer the question about their readiness to be vaccinated.

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In the digital age, vaccine hesitancy is significantly influenced by information from the internet. A lot of discussions in social media are devoted to doubts about the safety of a vaccination and It's necessity.

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The research of language of such discussion is very important for understanding attitudes of people towards vaccination. Understanding the current discourse of acting residency is impossible without studying this structure and characteristics of discussions or vaccinations in social media.

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The aim of our research was to describe the thematic structure of the discourse about vaccination against koi in the Russian language social media.

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For our purposes, we choose the social network inside of contact. It is the most visited Russian language social network inside.

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It like Facebook maybe. Which contains more than 500 million registered accounts. This site provides open access to public pages what is good for our sociological research with an obtusive data.

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For our sample whistlelected comments from users of 4 largest news communities in this network inside. We selected new communities according to the following criteria.

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The number of community members must exceed 350,000. Come you need posts should be open for commenting.

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A communities should have different democratic. The magic was evaluated by the description of the community posted by the group administrators.

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We used a multi stage sampling to select relevant comments. Comments were selected using the contact your application program interface.

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At this stage or public posts on the community wall for the period from January, the eighteenth, 2,021 to February.

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15, 2,022 were received there January, the eighteenth 2021 is a start of was the start of mass vaccination in No Russian feel.

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The number of comments about the COVID vaccination is closely related to the waves of the pandemic. This slides show the distribution of comments by publication date.

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The growth in the number of comments about vaccination begins in the winter of 2020 first. When the start of mass vaccination in Russian federation was announced.

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The largest number of comments refers to June, July 2020 first. This period of time corresponds to the introduction of the mandatory use of quark coats to visit public places.

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And this bill has become widely discussed in social media.

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From the resulted set of comments, we selected both containing a mention of vaccination against C. Thirty-filter in Worth's credit out through the search for carnate wards for the water vaccination.

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I've heard that we downloaded or comments to such posts. This we received more than 1,000 comments from a total of 4 news communities.

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Which contained a mention of approximation.

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Then from the total number of comments for each community we selected 1,500 comments and we did it using a random stream request.

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In the browser program as a result a final sample of a 6,000 comments was formed. For good and we use the matic analysis.

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A different stage, 36 deductive and inductive codes were identified which were larger grouped in a later group into 24 themes.

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Fourteenth themes directly related to the vaccine hesitancy. It's about 78% of commons.

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And 7 themes related to emotions and generals. Thoughts about vaccination. It's about 21.5.

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Percent of Commons. To determine which concept are central and which are peripheral, we used the World cloud package in the art studio program.

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The frequency of mansion concepts was counted. And analysis of the concepts in in each topic made it possible to determine the composition of the central core and peripheral system of each thematic group.

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An assessment of the frequency of mention in the selected categories showed that it changed over time. As did the number of comets in general.

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This was probably due to changes in the dynamics of pandemic and to changes in the measures taken to contain their pandemic.

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Discussions about mandatory vaccination. Vaccine safety and about conspiracy theories who have declined all the time. Distrust of the authorities who has been on the high level with slight fluctuations all the time.

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Consumers about vaccine effectiveness. Discussion of the inconsistency of messages from government officials and the medical community.

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In consistency of public policy regarding vaccination. Have increased all the time.

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The identified themes were interpreted in terms of the sage of a vaccine. A hesitancy determinants model.

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This model I identifies 3 groups of factors influencing the behavioral decision to accept July or reject accents.

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Kantyoux's tool influences individual and group influences and vaccine specific influences. Context to influences as follows, conflicting information in media.

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Contradictory state pulses, contradictory messages from government representatives and the medical community. Individual and group influences.

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What as follows, conspiracy theories. Religious objections to auction of vaccination. And we identified vaccine specific influences.

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Which were concerns of effectiveness and safety of foxes. Poor organization or vaccination campaign. In the center of the discourse is the topic of distrust to the authorities.

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Which contains references to all 3 types of reasons for vaccine hesitancy. At the intersection of so called art themes containing references to 2 types of reasons at the same time.

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We identified 4, Disclusive strategies that contribute to vaccine hesitancy. The first one was called Vaccination is a means to restrict the civil rights.

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The second one, vaccination is an unnecessary or ineffective measure. Since the coronavirus is not a great danger or since the vaccine is not good.

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The third one, vaccination, is a tool to make profit or the result of the conspiracy of international leads to control the population of the world.

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And the fourth one, vaccination is a risk emergence that can cause more negative health effects. Then benefits.

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To explore the discourse or facts and hesitancy we adopted an approach developed in social representation. Theory developed by Sias Mascovich.

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This approach is valuable because it treats lay and non-professional representations not as separate and unrelated biases which could be easily replaced by so-called correct knowledge.

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But it takes into account their own logic and integrity in specific social contexts. In the centre of the diagram are key concepts common to each disclusive strategy about the coronavirus.

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Trust, knowledge and authority. They form the core of all revealed discourseive strategies. Concepts in general.

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Of course it's in green. In green circles, I petipheral peripheral.

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They are responsible for differences in these discussions. So, a treatment of vaccination is a means to restrict the civil, right?

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Is connected to be such concepts as Compulsion rights contradictions. The theme vaccination as an unnecessary or ineffective measure is connected with concepts of sense, immunity and motation.

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The strategy of vaccination as a tool to make profit or the result of the conspiracy. Use concepts of profit, control and collusion.

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Of vaccination as a risk emergency is connected with such concepts as Doctors, consequences. If you go.

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In the structure of all identified strategies, there are 3 interconnected core categories, trust, knowledge and authority.

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These categories form the foundation of which topic, developing a general meaning with certain nuances. This cohesiveoris demonstrate that the Disc Kosovo factor hesitancy is interrelated with the urgent social issues such as lack of trust in social institutions.

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Skepticism about government. Measures lack of reliable information about the characteristics and side effects of the vaccine.

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And distrust of medical knowledge in general. Online discussions of COVID vaccination. Oh highly politicized.

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Most of identified themes are related to politics in one or another way. They are related to political power in interests of elite and pharmaceutical companies which are discussed by users.

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Distrust in medical knowledge and doubts in information about vaccine trails.

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Abstract dobs about vaccination not supported by facts or observations revealed in the analyst online discussions. All the more concrete and specific judgments about organisation of their vaccination campaign.

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We treated it as a sign of humidization, a feature of social representation when increased attention is paid to certain of abstract attributes.

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And they are accentuated while others smoke on clip concrete attributes fall out of sight. Discussions about the characteristics of the vaccine and about the specific problems of its use.

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In social networks. Were replaced by a discussion of the general social and political problems indirectly associated with their vaccination.

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So thank you very much.

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If we move to the next presentation. Okay. Questions and discussions? All the presentations are finished.

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Thank you very much.

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Next to presentation is by Akicho Sato The flow is yours.

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Okay. Hello everyone. My name is Jackie K. Settle.

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Press you. I am Nawat. Can say, Gaqueen University in Japan. I will lead my paper titled as between promoter and abstractionists of vaccination.

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Vaccine india sufferings and and vaccination discos in Japan.

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So first of all, I want to refer to an acknowledgment. I would like to acknowledge the traginal custodian of the land.

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We pair respect to elders of the community and the tender recognition to their descendants.

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And so this is the structure of my presentation.

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So I begin my presentation was to refer a way of referring to the context of my study. There are 2 contexts.

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One is on Arabic, on drug injury sufferings. Our team has just published a book where the title Various Drug Indies Sufferings in Japan.

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And another context is the fact that the vaccination for kovat. 19 has evoked the emergence of anti-vaccination discourse in Japan.

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So on the first context I should talk about a concept of drug in the sufferings. Drug injured sufferings.

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Which we call DIS. Is a world which means physical damages and social sufferings include social exclusion that are caused by medicine antibiotics.

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DIS is well known in Japan. For example, that Domarian in the 60, s caused serious damage to expectant mothers and this formities of children.

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HIV, contaminated blood products. Coast 8 and many deaths. In the 90 eighties and nineties.

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These disasterous incidents have been called Yak. Guy in Japan. Which means medicine harm as literary translation.

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However, as socialist we should work at the social aspect of the sufferings. That.

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Oh, great. Thank you.

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Oh yes, yes, however as a socialist we should look at social aspects of sufferings that are beginning to face ways.

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That is the reason why we use drug in user suffering, DIS instead. In the

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It's stuck. Okay, okay, okay. And it takes a bit of medical education. The definition of DIS had been focused to medical matters.

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However, general people use the word DIS as something broader. So I analyze with the method of discuss analysis of UK labor school style.

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How people talked and wrote about the DIS. Then I found There are 4 Leppard words. Coserity repertoire the responsibility at war.

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Structuralism, LEPATOR, and solidarity the in terms of perspective are victims one of the most harmful disasters experience they faced with when employed in the IS were social exclusion.

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Like discrimination, dismal, and debos. Big teams experience such things as part of DIS. With Sorda Di.

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So back to in the sufferings which can be called Bouillas constitutes a part of the DIS in Japan.

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So we need same perspective as DIS. So the various is a word which means the physical damages and social travel, including social exclusion that are caused by vaccination and it's after effect.

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And second context. Is re-imagined of antibactination discourse in Japan after COVID.

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1950 of our general books are about Bakination in Japan. Can be found since 1990.

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And 21 books about vaccine public vaccine published after the introduction of Covid-nineteen vaccination.

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Sorry, small writer.

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Then before entering the body, I want to show the point of my presentation. Sociological and anthropological study on vaccination have often concentrated to research the reason why some People have hesitated or even denied getting vaccination.

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Such reason has been often attributed to psychosocial matters related to such people's mind and their environment.

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Based on Bresa Podium that the efficacy and safety of vaccine is scientifically guaranteed.

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However, Japanese experience on BIS flow another way to inquiry into such hesitation-denial. This cause of various victims demonstrates that vaccination is a social experience, not a medical medical matter.

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So next chapter is to show some futures of vaccination discourse. D in Japan. Can be categorized into 3 types.

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Type one is antibactin discourse which many claimed that Babuchin is harmful and material to control and even sterilized people.

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For example, number 90 and 31 of the table claimed that vaccine has been a tool to ruse a world by Los Angeles.

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It's funny.

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And type 2 is, sorry.

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Tap 2 is backstage promotion discos, which mainly claimed that vaccine is beneficial and its safety is scientifically guaranteed.

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For example, number 38 claimed that every action is beneficial and scientifically guaranteed and so MMO where yes as we'll discuss later was not an actual program.

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T 3 is vaccine balanced discourse which create that benefit or vaccine depends upon a stress on infection and the conditional vaccination.

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It does not necessarily exclude the necessity and the benefit of virtue. For example, number 10, Crammed that polio vaccine in the 90 sixties was crucial at the time, but for comprehensive action today is useless.

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And importantly, Bias have been often interpreted as something that has shown evidence for the harm of vaccine in Japan.

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How, most of the discourse of BIS victims can be categorized in type 3.

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So we think we should think about the reason why type one and type 2 often misunderstand BUS. Interestingly, type one and tab 2 are contradictory in their contents.

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But both often use same leopardw. Discussed analysis of vaccine discourse showed that Both packaging discos have been consist of deduction leopardwork.

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It means that these discourses consistently give account deductively on the matter of vaccine. Such consistency is also distinctive.

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Yes. Type one consistently attributes all the codes of the problems to some ingredients or vaccine which were invented to rule the world.

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Type to contradictory but consistently claimed that the effect and safety of vaccine, deductory guaranteed in their writings.

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And the problems concerning West Bank have been treated as some trouble with ignorant people. How will most of the case of cases of BAS in Japan revealed that the problems concerning West Bank cannot be defined consistently.

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Rather, prominence often occur contingentry and contingentry and it depends upon complicated factors and situations.

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So I would show such feature of BAS in the next chapter.

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And before we discuss about the future of VS, I want to show you one typical discourse on where I is victim.

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The following 1 min movie is a fragment of the talk of Mr. Shigail Weeno whose daughter Hannah was officially recognized as a victim of Bria Yes by MMR Vaccine.

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Okay, interestingly we can find that he did not accuse our vaccination himself. Rather, he insisted that carelessness and significance and the process of MMR vaccination were to be blamed.

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As it typically shows. Discuss does not necessarily accuse of vaccination itself So we should look at where his cases and some similar incident in Japan to discuss vaccination discs.

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The first VIS Japan in Japan wards anti-jufthetic immunization disaster in 1,948.

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And if they take the back nation beyond an autumn native 48. That's Bextin, manufactured by the Osaka JLCL, resulting 8 4 deaths.

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Bringing the total number of bacteria's reaction to 800, over 800. The damage and the suffering were long forgotten until one of the victims gave voice to his book in his book in 2,003

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How was the cause of the disaster discussed? The main cause of the gesture was found to be inadequate weakening of the life vaccine as well as inadequate testing method for toxicity.

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It's not random. In addition, the fundamental cause was discussed as that the technical capability of 4 vaccine production were not sufficient in Japan.

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However, the Ministry of Health and Welfare lashed Tibetan exchange problem to l respond quickly to the request of JSQ the the occupation force after the war for anti-Jeric vaccination.

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And the Ministry of Health and Worker also concealed it's responsibility.

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The second case of the acting in the Incident towards the smallpox vaccination disaster in the 19 seventies.

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Interestingly, all the way towards significant incident for vaccine problems, it was not a obvious case. Let me tell you the lesson.

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Oh, sorry. In the light, 1,900 sixtys and seventies, damage caused by the smallpox and inference vaccines were discovered.

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About the nation. In many cases, they were neglected as peculiarity by the government. Kerland's movement was organized in 1970.

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A class action losses were filed against the inaugural treatment and and the state of but national system.

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This action without this action regarding the vision of a immunization law in 1,994.

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The small smallpox vaccination disaster was framed as a problem of mandatory vaccination and the remedy for a adverse reactions.

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In other words, it was formulated as a problem of relief system in the event of adverse reaction. That is why the smallpox vaccination disaster is not interpreted as a vaccine in these sufferings but as a root fall of vaccination system.

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The third incident is MML vaccine in their sufferings. It occurred in the late 19 eighties.

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MMO vaccine is a combined vaccine against the 3 infectious diseases, measles, mumps and rubber.

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Each vaccine was manufactured by a separate company and unified. It became a routine vaccination. From April, 99.

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CBU Adba's reaction occurred among the children after back to National Army in 1,993.

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From the start of vaccination to April, the nineteenth 93 there were 1,754 cases of Manning jet miniatis.

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Reporters. Approximated a proximity one in every 1,000 persons. 1,000 person.

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Back end. The mum's packing was brimmed for meningitis. In particular, the manufacturing mesot of the company was changed.

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Without authorization.

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Furthermore, the Ministry of Health and Welfare did not adequately monitor meningitis.

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That decide on to discontinue of MMR routine vaccination was delayed because of the intention of the researchers and council member deeply involved in the research development and introduction of legal vaccination inhibited or from to decide on to discontinue.

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In 1,983, the MML boxing in the suffering lawsuit filed against the manufacturer of Mumps action and the Japanese government.

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In 2,003 the company lost the case in 2,006 the government lost the case. These problems are thought to be the typical factors causing DIS in Japan.

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This is a photo I took when I was at the German this much. The final case in is about It's PBV vaccination.

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It is officially not yet VIS, but it is called HPV vaccination adverse agreement. In 2,013 the immunisation law was revised for HPV vaccine but that recommended Factination is immediately suspended.

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In the same year because of the reports of CBIBUS events. And the victims movement was organised this year.

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Accuse not ingredient Although Bias's victims have often accused of the activity, especially in type 2, such accusation has been experienced as a part of a Bias.

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By victims. Okay, these 2 population, these 2 popular discs are demonstrated that talking about vaccine is demonstrated that talking about vaccine is often talking about something beyond vaccine is often talking about something beyond actually experienced by vaccine is often talking about something beyond actually experienced by victims.

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And so we are now at temporary conclusion. Especially after the COPY to 90 Poundamic it has become difficult to discuss about vaccination as social experienced social phenomena based on our experience with acting in sufferings.

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I believe that we socialists need to develop the message and the path expected to examine but examine vaccination as a source such experience and phenomena.

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That's the same story with us. Thank you very much. That's all.

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Thank you very much and next presentation may be different a little bit different from the COVID but it may have something common in the light of fear and discrimination.

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Professor Yamada and Mr. Hai. I have some over there. Please take a seat here.

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From, 90 80 to 1,984 in Japan, the use of a blood product tainted with a Java.

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The use of a blood product tainted with HIV infection. Among 2 fifths of about 5,000 Japanese hemipheriaks.

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Why affected and yeah among them about 500 people were dead because of is. As a result, the whole population of the Japanese Hemo Fiaks was stigmatized and discriminated to avoid the discrimination hemophiliacs were fearful of disclosing themselves in public.

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In short, they engaged in Maharan government's passing in every moment. We can say that the stimulus that stigmatization of the HIV infection amounted to difficulties of communication between the infected and the non-infected.

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This experience of social suffering constitute one of the reasons of hardness of living of Japanese hemophiliacs.

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In, 1,989, HIV infected hemophilics in Osaka, Tokyo fired lawsuits against the Japan Ministry of Health and Welfare and 5 Japanese run companies.

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In March, the nineteenth 96 the government accepted the court's recommendation. Out of a court settlement.

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This is in favour of the Plenty. This settlement to some extent alleviated the sufferings of HIV infected hemophiliacs and set the foundation for the improvement of their QL, including HIV AIDS medical care.

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However, the hardness of living also by the stigm. It has long been inflicting them as victims until now.

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We can learn from the life history of Mr. Hayasaka the process of distancing himself from the language of victims, which could be a risk for the similar discrimination caused by COP.

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19. Then the, yeah, I will talk about the discrimination who cut during the first Covid-nineteen pandemic.

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Dr. Kai Mudo, a sociologist who joined the governmental export advisory bodies. Especially in the working group on prejudice discrimination.

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One is the discriminatory behaviors against hospitalers and care facilities, their workers, their families. And second, behaviors against school and school partners, third behaviors related to the workplace, a force online slander, if slander on the basis of patient nationality and against people living outside the prefecture or moving boundary over the

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prefecture and 6 news reports containing information, jeopardizing the privacy of cases. I take only one discriminatory example, feature card in the hospital where the Covid-nineteen patient was dead for the first time in Japan.

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And the hospital's negative image was distributed through the media. Where the workers of the hospital picked up and dropped off their children at nursery schools.

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And kindergartens as usual, they were prohibited to enter this period and were refused. Their school attendance from the next day, even though they were not infected.

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And the names and the workers and their children were exposed on social network. Yeah, those are only one case of the discrimination.

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And as the working group reported, it was often observed that the targeted people with the discrimination Submissively accepted the slanders and the brains themselves because of their careless behaviours and the insufficient self-control which could invite infection.

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This is a I think a very strange reaction. But they blamed themselves. The working group gives explanation yeah to this Yeah, strange submissive acceptance because they had been exposed to the discriminatory behaviors and slanders.

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It became extremely difficult for them to tell their medical conditions of the infection to others openly for fear of discrimination.

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Which could eventually lead to the negative self image and lowest self-esteem. The negative attitude could separate them from the society and keep them in isolation.

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We can explain this phenomena in terms of the concept of a cell of stigma. My husband Bura defines the self stuma as the internalisation of negative societal views about the group.

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He or she belongs. The negative surf image on CYSUS passing caused by self stigma amounted to overstuckles to the impassioned risk assessment and from communication between the infected and the other people in Japan.

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As the working group pointed out in the case of COVID-19 pandemic. This leads to the failure to establish the risk communication.

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For the HIV infected hemophiliacs, the identity of the victim meant not only the victim of Well, drug-induced sufferings, but also the victims of self stigma which might be bring about communication breakdown.

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After the autopilot settlement, Mr. Hessaka somehow thought that he could not live as a victim forever and he and his peer who were also HIV affected and fought the legal battle together started the business.

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As far as they knew each other's infection, they did not need to fear of the unexpected exposure and discrimination so that this company offers a place where they belonged and relaxed and this place became a springboard to the wider society.

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According to Dr. Canada, this process of starting a business with peers and to create the place where they belong to without fear was the beginning of distancing from the victim category.

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And this distancing process also means a liberation from the self stigma after liberated from the pasting practice.

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Governments. They could escape from the isolation to become connected to the other people again.

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Supporters. This gave me Mr. Heisaka various opportunities to meet thousands of people whose plastic perspectives and the ways of thinking why do we get different.

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Now he completely grow out of self stigma and acquired the viewpoint of both the supporters and supported.

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He realised and was assured that even the Medusa isolation he could find the supporter.

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We will try to understand the precarious situation where the victims were in. In the case of COVID-19 pandemic, how the infected could grow out of the victim.

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Category and how could they liberate themselves from the negative self-image and the law surface team. In 2,020 it might be very difficult for them to free from the victim category because COPY.

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19 has not been weakened. And the fear of the motor disease was still predominant. You know, the public awareness building for the Covid-nineteen infection prevention might contribute to the consolidation of the victim category.

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As Mr. Hesser stated in our interview as far as the public awareness building we put much stress on the prevention As the same in the case of HIV infection prevention education, we have to watch over our conduct, anniversary, not to be infected, cares for 3 and yeah every day we review our conducts and the We are

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very nervous to be infected. So we have a very scared knowledge about the rear situation. And also the effective medical treatment.

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This bias for the prevention would keep the infected in terms of blame for their actual infection because of their misconduct which could consolidate the victim category and the fewer the fear for the infection.

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For the not yet infected. And to concrete conclude our presentation because of the discriminator behaviors towards the infected behaviors towards the infected we understand that they are infected.

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Both HIV and COVID-19 tended to identify themselves as victims and blame themselves for their infection.

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Which cause the communication breakdown. They were isolated from the other people and then parted in perpetual passing.

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To escape from this hardness of living we can learn from the life history of Mr. Hessaka it is very important to distance to answer from the victim category.

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We get from as Mr. Hasakat told us. We need a place where we can feel skew and beyond.

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As we can go on to expand our world, we could escape from the victim category and become connected to others again.

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Rusty is a public awareness building. Should not only stress the infection prevention but also distribute the information of the disease itself.

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And the effective medical treatment. These attempts could surely alleviate the sufferings caused by the self-esteem.

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And yeah, this is the end of our presentation. But this is, yeah, Mr. Hayesaka is present in person, so please ask any question to him.

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About his life story. Thank you.

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So, How much can you do? Yes, you know, but, yeah. So, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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The only thing I ask you to keep in mind is just any of the discussion make sure it's recorded. Yes.

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And one passed. That's a thing I choose. Okay. I will continue.

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Yes, please continue. But it was very interesting and very Curious to me because we have here very different socio- sociological context where We have Prussian.

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I think we we have post to go. I don't say nothing but So and it's very interesting to see all in this specific context of vaccination.

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Where the states assume a position of guaranteed collective health or public health. Oh, in Russian?

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And indications of the European Union. Thank you. We have a national service. That complies with the indication of Oh have yes and the European advisors.

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And dressing. They create some power and knowledge upon them. You health system. Thatination system.

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But they denied the vaccines of America, American vaccination and European, they create their own. They create their own. They create their own.

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And in the, this for the, when it's 1 one thing the political interaction in public health situation and the way the different types of government government takes account of this problem.

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Another problem is, Okay, and it's so sociologists If. Can take place in this discussion.

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Because the 2 was the same typical knowledge but it's a social norm that people have to get adherence to.

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This specific or not if you are in a state that don't allow you to choose. You have to, and to get this, vaccination.

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And the problem is all the same between the and private rivers of taking Garner taking. The vaccine.

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And the, collective are the states in positions of mandatory yes And, Furthermore, we are dealing with the medieval issues that is Proof.

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Long away the vaccinations are the most successful issue medicine in accounts or the control of disease.

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So, I don't know how can we be critical without, take a, a set, a static position or, and in position for the liberties of individuals or for the public health.

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Because we have this paradox between I body and my private choice and the collective responsibility of a poet was issue.

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Yes. I think we don't have any answer to such question directly, but as a socialist we have to develop are a method or perspective to research vaccine sociology.

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But her discussion is very much based on the recipients that action is. Scientifically efficient efficient and safe or something like that but we as a socialist I think I believe that we have to develop some kind of strong, strong problem to research vaccine.

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Science, Social Science were dominated with Martinian scientific and social radio science. Which is called weak. Program because such social risks of science did not touch the truth of scientific knowledge.

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But today we have to, we have to inquiry the Incorporated as well. So same things happened I think in a medical field and so we have to look at the both side of the science and can't such any kind of hesitation on the denial Yes and so I think we have to develop.

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To think about science and social or something like that. Yes. So, so I return to your question and comment.

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And but to we have to describe the how people use the knowledge, actually knowledge over imagination itself. And I describe the situation on society.

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Is that as in A European First that always thinks that this kind of dispersions when it matter with Japan or China.

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Double gym or in with anthropologist that it was implications. In somewhere in China or Japan And and so she writes NARTH.

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About their experience. Of the lockdown in in other content it was in debate or something like that doing, and the Obviously what it she described in this text is the way people there goes for the traditional meetings.

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And for traditional metals. Of not getting. Not getting, contaminated.

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And in this kind of discussions about vaccine excitation. How do you see this? So traditional ideas. And the idea is about natural treatment and so on and Russian Russian are in Japan.

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Not the not the vaccines not the for Messi to call interest but how can these other knowledge and local knowledge are mobilized by the by the people in in our countries because we have this.

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Mmm, this, if you, token ideas that you in Japan and China and Russia have other medicines that will save us from the side effects of the drugs.

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Yes, we have a lot of traditional methods for traditional diseases. Such as I don't know, hot milk, with honey when you have cook or blue and so on but but but Combati is German medicine.

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It's not Russian tradition. It's not Russian traditionals. It's not Russian tradition. It's European. It's European tradition for nobody.

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Yes, and we have as in Europe we have some people who trust in Homiya Party and don't trust in science, so-called science medicine, evidence based medicine.

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I think as in other countries we have some percent of such population. I think as in other countries we have some percent of such population.

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But a it was a new disease and it had, and has different symptoms. Some people had very light symptoms like every day for ordinary flu or something and some people had very hard things.

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And polite symptoms traditional treatment is okay you can Jean, goat, milk, to sleep more and Some weeks you will be.

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But for that people who had very hard symptoms, it's not enough. So trust you in evidence based medicine or don't trust you go to the hospital.

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Yes, and July on doctors. Yes, souls. In Japan, you won't say that nothing gets saved her as well.

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These side index of. Yes. And there are many, many discos about, about some immunization or, immunity.

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Which is broke to from the COVID-19 in the for crew you know way I mean the Chinese medicine my country is very popular and some people some Chinese medicine doctor told us that this kind of medicine have much powerful to blog copy to 19 or something like that yeah but It's a kind of we do not have any kind

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of you know evidence but it's very famous too and also some Some medicine, I forgot the name, but it's embedded by a Japanese scientist and which was very famous.

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To attack the Go to 19. Yeah, and in TV TV problem some doctor announced that it's very effective or something like that.

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They understand it's a it has no evidence of course but so we have many a lot of very strange or funny discourse about immunity.

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Yes, and, some strategy to you know defense from the Covid-nineteen infection.

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Yeah, but, you know, it, it is sort of

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That this is why such kind of discourse or very much flourish was because I think the vaccination is not that did not reach our country.

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You know, it's very late. Yes, because, the, failure of government to get vaccination.

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But That's why we have had it to develop our way to block such kind of things. Yeah.

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The way

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You picture I was also is inization. So, And no interest. He said precautions in the And my base this season.

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Fabrication. I'm I'm gonna mention that when people Seeing as the

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Pulp around ideas about the realization and the living bombings that

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Terminal. And also be important for The 500 soft. Alternative way to Right. Look at themselves.

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Yeah, yeah, so much, Even so, we do not have any evidence here. That's kind of thing.

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So.

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European in the Don't worry. We have this. Idea that So.

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Arm and think that children.

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Really? Webs in practice. They are not so important as because The be romantic or way of singing.

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Very bright. Yeah, yeah, Yeah, in Japan we will. Yes, but.

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Yeah, but It's dependent, you know, as other people have fork medicine very much and so they do not want to get such kind of medicine.

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Even so, very much. You're afraid that such kind of infection because TV programmer.

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Always told that this is a crucial this was crucial to other people or something like. My question is Oh.

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Scientists expand on.

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Any. Much with any evidence with these groups that are numbers that can culture upon Morning, Kui.

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Oh. Occidental memes in and premises.

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I, sorry, I can't, We can, Another that Why, there's another, another, but, but, going to be these in.

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Myths ultra-controlled into the OCD, medicine and pharmaceutical.

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What I mean is beyond medical model and the pharmaceutical model of treating disease. Oh, not alternative in the traditional way.

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Present if this all this course of vaccine discourse and the way we can treat these virus or other virus that will come that if we are or if you think that we can have another paradigm in Kun's perspective of paradigms.

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No, they are medical paradise. Yes, but I don't know. I haven't done that is not center in the body under the individual person that in the an ecological perspective.

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Because some problems that we have in our house are not about body and the person but are about theological systems that create new virus, create new forces that shape our house so I think we need it to Get out of in body centers.

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Approach to disease or ecological and known so medical center across from the disease

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To more social approach. Yes, digital social factors and psychological factors. And so, but because till now when, when we treat disease and we, when we talk about disease, we are talking about this is when we are talking in medical approach.

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And the way of, of, save our bodies and so centering individual measures like vaccination so on that the problem is much much more higher than than that.

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So it's not a question but. I hope. Some, we go in in all parts of the globe.

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With your knowledge in Japan and in Brazil. India, Russian or They have another response. I remember Brazil.

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As a great response to AHERVY.

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A better response than Europe or their United States. Because the Brazilians have a huge knowledge about infection disease.

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So must, match, before. The French or the and Americans or other countries ever response to a HIV to Brazilians.

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If a huge Norwich about the infection disease and they develop very good strategic. Or and get success about it.

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So we need to decentralize the response to to our centralized from the Maybe, the countries. Always emerge if they're doing all the answers.

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They don't have the answer. They have the pharmaceutical industries that want to claim something with Okay.

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It's just a comment. We have, I think that we can, talk about, from the one side about different, medical models.

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Who know, when I applied here and Chinese traditional medicine or still party and so on so on. And from the other point, we can say about, people who, for some people with different diseases.

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Who became so-called expressed by experience. Who know so much about their own condition and about treatment and try to feed this treatment to their own body to correct sometimes the assignments of doctors.

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Of professional doctors because they know their body better. And so-called experts by experience I think it's too big potential for the centralization of medical system.

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You mentioned. And social media give big possibilities for communication of such people with different diseases, with chronic diseases.

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Yes, yes, because as some experts say they exchange some bad and vices no they exchange some personal knowledge and it's very important for these people not only as social support but as personal knowledge about their disease.

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Yeah, so I think there's some potential. Dessertization medical system. Please, please, microphone.

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No separate image from I think because they joined here. Yes, you have created a network. And impact friends with people that.

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And I believe, or you're at being large, yeah, yes, yes, you've got So if you Some of them.

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Yeah.

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Like the. They both, I don't know. So part of the But I still take us high by our step.

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I know. Yeah, They all such a positive problem. Or what's even up. So that, you know, because at every time you say, oh, go ahead.

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Translation please. Groups were created from the lawsuit. The social movements. To accuse the government and the 5 big pharmaceutical companies.

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And then, yeah. To ask them to compensate for the damages.

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Those, yeah, victims.

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And then the so that though in the process of lawsuits that 2 big, yeah, group groups were created and then they share the information about the disease and also the particular situations.

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I mean after that the Yes, sexually infected. Groups were created. And then the maybe that those, yeah, sexually infected groups.

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Yeah, accepted many informations of heritage from the first created victims of

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And then the, now, yeah, and now he belongs under the representatives of the This real chance is named after the parcel.

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The Bioji Fujiwara today happened to be the day he was dead 5 years ago.

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I remember he created this NPO to make bridges. Between the hemophiliacs and then the other homosexual HIV.

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Tainted. It's not. Thank you very much.

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It's very, very interesting and important. Because they experience that I know from Portugal the a patient or the association of patient groups.

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And mainly for having, at demanding action, a demanding action about the thermosotics, about supports.

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And that is important. That's that's it's very than the important part. Other things.

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Is getting together as a font of knowledge and participation. In the clinic. And, empowerment from the patients with the same condition.

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So it's 2 kinds of activism. That are important but very different. And the second one, the one who gets the people empowerment and the get him to active, they interact with doctors and with the science is very It's necessary.

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So don't you ask any question? Do you have any such kind of associations or peer groups in Portugal.

436
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Yes, we have, among we have strong associations or peer groups in Portugal? Yes, among we have, we have strong associations and peer groups of patients, How about a cancer is the disease that mobilizes more association and the disease that mobilizes more association and the greater visibility, visibility in our Okay, cancer in

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general and risk cancer for Okay, our movements and but there are other particular not so with not so active.

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Why do you? You hypothesis why more such groups and cancer? And then with this particular Almost where I will say

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Every associations of these peer associations that we are talking here that we have in the country. Start with mobilisation of the doctors.

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What do what is is implicating? Of the weakness of the patient associations. Only the ones who are mobilized.

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By doctors. Or is or because daughters are particular in in that cause. Or we caught the doctors. Have someone in their family.

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I remember one that worked very well for the as a mental disease for they have a child. The deputies and just one you have 7 one From the medical film touched by that problem And the person mobilized.

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All the, all the resource. To get more visibility for the, the problem. But I think, do, populations are getting more active in general so the I think these networks and The patience associations are will be a very important part of of the system and the It's good that.

444
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And, you said that all this associations start from legalization of doctors, yes? And because, and I have the same questions.

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Why, oncologists are. More ready to mobilize. And then other than other doctors.

446
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You said that, more, There are a lot of groups, peer groups. In our culture, people with cancer, yes.

447
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And then you said that this your groups starts from the doctors mobilization. So you mean that doctors Ancologist Dr.

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Sutrit Cancer are more active than doctors of other spiritualities. In life. This, the association of.

449
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It's called Borzuki's size for cancer. It was very, there we have a colleague that's writing a book about this association.

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Sometimes for CENTIFY core interests of the doctors. That's are going in a process of instigation then they don't get in trios or ever interest in create a big in a institution or something.

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So they mobilized. Foundings, research and so on. And for a scientific interest, for academic interests.

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I understand but I think should be some institutional context for example for example they should have more funds more resources more money more maybe from government to create such associations than doctors from other officialities.

453
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The other, these are some cases, specific places for scientific reasons or interests. I mean, to reasons or interests.

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I remember scientific reasons or interests and remember to culture it was one of them. We have a huge success.

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It was one of them. We have a Medical said it was one of them. We have a huge success for association that treats vision problems.

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When I say the And it's a institution that works with India and so on and then it's founding by And that.

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Other places are for for personal reasons. When we have a, or doctor that a family situation like the S and the specific program or something.

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You really go get the situation that sees that no there are no civil civil support there are that the person we have as is for there are many except that I can keep you.

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For instance, if, and a person with the name in the medical film that as a as a as a as an accident It takes account of the difficulties of the very project.

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Problems that, with the problems that are faced by, so it creates associations.

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And mobilize It's always impossible. It's very interesting to see that the mobilization of the civil society in many cases.

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Are from up to down not down to up Yes. The situations and then the see all there are mobilization for so I guess it's a matter of luck for some petrolies or for some situations in about disease to have a big personality.

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That gave the face for the calls. Oh. And it's a peculiar that but nowadays with the internet And, if it, That's the unknown people and the people that have no relation and power resources can mobilize and can get together and put and get voices for the problems because It gets much more easier if

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people use and get together without, this needed for having someone with power for resources to put the problems in the agenda, political and sociology.

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And

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Sorry for. Hiya Sakasan do you have any question to be at least about the situation of Portuguese?

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And only home would you do today, Jara? I know.

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Okay, yes, yes, please. I had some question do you? For example in Japan, Japan is a very highlight vaccination.

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For K. 19. Partly because people believe that we are very much you know pressure People are very much pressure to you know we are very much you know oriented to the guru and the human group and the Europe community and something like that.

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People sometimes very much stress ways why don't you go to the vaccination or something like that. It's very important.

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Motivation for us to but to vaccination. So we are very highlight of vaccination for COVID and 19.

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So avoid accusation. So yeah, yes, that's that's that's why yeah.

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So how is your country and We you tell me something about the situation? That's nice. And so the group pressure is not so big in our culture as in Japanese culture.

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But so and a lot of people feel some kind of skepticism about some measures which government proposed them.

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They always think there's something wrong with it. If they say us to go vaccinated. Racing something better.

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01:46:31.000 --> 01:46:45.000
So it's if in 2 words to characterize this attitude to vaccinations. So we had a quite big because of the vaccination too but not because of motive.

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For example of shame in front of my group. But because of some kind of administrative measures for example we don't let you go to walk if you don't give this document about you are vaccinated or we don't Now let you go to the hotel or do the we notice, yes, yes, yes, yes, you credit

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it, had everyone here and to have this vaccine passport in order to be, So It is to have some rights.

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It was the main, motive for many people. The There's this G. Because we are a lot of trust institutional trust to the level of institutional trust is traditionally quite a law.

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Destination. Yeah, but some people trusted to this our vaccine very much so we don't have such equal picture that everyone against it some people, it's such kind of things I mean I mean trust to government at risk.

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I mean, trust to government at such kind of things is I mean, I mean, trust to, government such kind of things is it connected to another story about controversy or something like that because in my country story about controversy or something like that because, I mean, in my country, the

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anti-baccination, story about, conspiracy or something like that because I mean, in my country, the anti-Baccination, story Which builds a world or something like that which is very famous in our country but they high they consider some such kind of very weird story but sometimes they click

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the side government attitude. Only government attitude but Once there started such kind of criticism and then they go beyond such kind of things and to be very Swinge, controversy, So is it the same as a situation of your country?

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Of course, these conspiracy theories were distributed in all over the world. I think in this pandemic in some countries more in some countries less but everywhere.

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01:49:29.000 --> 01:49:46.000
Yeah, of course. Matrix? Matrix. Yeah, yeah, yes.

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And a discussion of these conspiracy theories is very popular in internet because this type of discourse is very popular in internet because because this type of discourse is very popular in internet because this type of discourse is very distributed through internet because this type of discourse is very distributed through internet.

487
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It's kind of a virus distribution of information. For example the the very bad situation of the, food and water or something like that or in South Country.

488
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So, but you do not have such kind of crisis or dangerous, situation in your country.

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I don't know about you. It's there any reason to split such kind of thing in your country.

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Because in my country, yeah We know a conspiracy story. It's, but it's not so popular.

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It's not so popular. Unless it comes to study.

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This is enjoy our destination and those Not the advanced destinations.

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I am I am sorry to we are running out of time. Thank you very much to all present. Thank you very much to all presenters.

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Afterward, you have time. Thank you very much to all presenters. Thank you very much to all presenters.

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Afterward, you have time after the session.