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Okay, we good morning, everybody. Good morning. The study of occupations and professions has a lengthy and prominent tradition in sociology.

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Occupations vary greatly in the degree to which they become the master determinants of social identity, self conception, and social status of the people in them and in society. That's from Massano, 1987.

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So occupational culture also guides and interprets the task and social relations of work, and how they are perceived in society.

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My research on this area began in 1994 and really was designed to have the input of staff nurses who told me their stories and provided me with the narrative

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experiences of their work life. And so at that time nursing scholarly publications were very limited in the area of non-supportive behaviors, especially in the area of race and racism.

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It's interesting because at that time the Ontario Hospital Anti-racism report in 1,994 came out

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and they developed a framework

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to implement Anti-racist organizational change for hospitals and to prepare the Ministry of Health in Ontario and the Ontario Hospital Association

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to become a supportive role in ongoing work of anti-racism.

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organizational changes. But when you really look at this, we found the hospitals not implementing that report and not adhering to the anti-racism structures, but instead went to diversity a lukewarm area in order for the health system to to adopt that. And to this day they have diversity.

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Then another report came out in 1,999. It was good nursing and good health, and at that time there were 140,000 nurses in the workforce.

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and they had 15 members. and in that task force they only had one

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nurse from the Ontario Nursing Association, one Rn. And one Rpn, that's the practical nurses out of 140,000

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on that board. and they were supposed to get input from nurses, nursing students, educators, employers, and consumers. In the end. That report very lukewarm said nurses are working harder.

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caring for more individuals, having less time, but never discussed abuse and racism in the workforce. So when I look back at my research, which went from 1,994 to 2,000 and

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13. Looking at the structure of nursing that produced a culture

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of non-supportive behaviors. in spite of them. Being a caring organization.

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you had to look and see what was happening, and when you did that

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what you found was abuse, both verbal abuse, sexual abuse.

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racist abuse, all of that. And why did I look at nursing? Because it was an organizational structure that allowed you to understand society?

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And did multiculturalism which comes into force in the eighties did it support equity? And we can talk about multicultural. And I'm sure everybody knows in Canada it's so great.

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What is it? What has it achieved

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so racialized nurses. They said that race color and ethnicity impacts on their relationship with colleagues, patients, doctors, supervisors, and a study by Dascopa in 2,002 showed that nurses of European background didn't see it the same way.

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And there was another report that came out in 2,005. Professor Rebecca Hage, of the University of Toronto, and myself, and a core Investigator. We asked for accountability, and so the title of that report

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in the title of that report implementing accountability for equity and ending racial backlash and nursing.

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We asked the question about what was happening in the workplace. and why multiculturalism has not been able to lessen racism

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and bring about equitable treatment

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in the workforce. Because when you look at diversity and anti-racism, anti-racism names and analyzes, and is a framework for dismantling systemic and institutional forms of racism.

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And we can look at that within the multicultural society in Canada, and most of you know that the multicultural act

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of 1,988 says that you know the policy of the Government of Canada to recognize and promote the understanding that multiculturalism reflects

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the culture and racial diversity of Canadian society, and acknowledges the freedom of all members

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of Canadian society to preserve, enhance, and share their cultural heritage that's in Section 3, one. But if we dismantle, that, is it really happening?

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So despite that act, and despite the charter.

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little attention really is paid to social inclusion in the workplace, and that is the most important because economics drive our everyday life. And if we're not participating economically, then we need to question everything.

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and although it's seen as privilege, we have to remember. it's in a a society that

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you know still has the privileged people at the top.

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When I look at it.

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we have to remember that multiculturalism isn't about just minority cultures. It includes the Portuguese, the Greeks, the Italians.

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and when they looked at it. They were hoping that it would. And I remember this, that multiculturalism would provide everybody with true equity within the country.

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Multiculturalism has dropped in many areas of Western society around the 2,013 area. People started to discuss it, not just in Europe, but in Canada, U.S.A., Australia, and New Zealand.

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and there was a debate, because they said, You know, it's not a great idea.

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Supporters and critics, you know, we're arguing this, and you can see this in many publications supporters say that multiculturalism is good because it helps minority and their children become included.

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It it breaks down barriers, and it's good politically, making them feel welcome in society with a so stronger sense of belonging.

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Critics, however, argue that multiculturalism Ghettoizes and Balkanizes, encouraging members of ethnic groups to look inward, emphasizing the differences between groups rather than the shared identity as Canadians.

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So when we look at it, it happens really in big cities, and you can see it in the Gta in Toronto, where people are in different

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areas of the city where they all live together and share that identity which sometimes it's good. The other thing I'd like to point out for those living in Quebec is that we know that on May 24, 2,022. The National Assembly

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provided Bill 96, which has an act respecting French, the official common language

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of Quebec, and that is the act that supports the 1,977, the charge of the French language.

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And then you have the circular bill of Bill 21, where we say that in Quebec

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public service cannot wear religious symbols while fulfilling their civic duties.

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And so basically, you know the Jewish kipper and the Sikhs, the Muslim hijab in public education, government and law enforcement systems cannot be.

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you know, used. And so when we look at that, then let's ask the question.

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does multiculturalism provide equity?

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You know, in Canada. I like

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the book, and many of us have read of John Porter in 1,965, where he talks about

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the vertical mosaic.

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an analysis of social class and power in Canada.

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And I really like this book very much, and I always cite him because it's still the same, 1,965 to 2,023. What John Porter says, he says, we have to recognize

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privilege in society we have to examine why so groups are pushed to the margin, and when you look at the vertical mosaic who's on the top, the Francophones and the Anglophones, the French and English.

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and then the new immigrants are at the bottom.

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and as the new immigrants come like

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currently you'll see people from Africa being at the bottom of Canadian society. and they find it very difficult sometimes to integrate because you don't get

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the jobs and the economic stability that you need.

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So Canada is structured as a vertical mosaic. As I said earlier, the French and the English at the top.

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And where do you find this look in business, large business organization. Who's on the boards. you know the political class, you see, who's the Prime Minister of Canada

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bureaucrats the mass media. It's getting a little better, but it's a tokenism

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and higher education is also very interesting. When you look sometimes in universities, you find that, as and I can say from York University find our students very racialized. But when you look at who's teaching and who's at the top, they're not.

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So we need to question that.

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And so I looked at nursing. And when I looked at nursing, there's 30 years of studies by nursing associations and researchers, and in 2022

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now I'm talking 1,994 when I started and other people had to

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2022, the Rna, that's the Registered Nursing Organization black nurses. Task Force published a paper. Black nurses in Ontario

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spoke openly about their lived experience and racism in all health care sectors and academic institutions. You think academic institutions would be better. But it's not so, the report, acknowledging it says acknowledging, addressing, and tackling anti-racist racism and discrimination within the nursing profession.

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and what they call and what Angela Cooper Braithwaite, I know of her. She was the past president of Rna, and also the Co. Chair of this

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report. She says, for years black nurses have been afraid to speak out about the microaggressions, discrimination, and racism they face within the academic and workplace settings for fear of reprisal as suppressive behaviors of managers.

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So they've lived with this. And when did it start before 1,944. What happened is African Canadian women were generally excluded in Canada from nursing schools

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and in the United States they were admitted from the 1890. S. So you know, we always like to looks out of the border and say, Oh, look at what's happening there! But we are far more aggressive.

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and it's always under the table. So

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44. The fight to have African Canadian women admitted into nursing schools in Nova Scotia was brought to the forefront when a young African-canadian woman traveled to Halifax

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to apply for the Halifax Children's Hospital of Nursing.

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When she went there they said, Oh, no, we're not going to admit you. And so what was she going to do so? She found

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another woman, Berlin, Oliver, and she went to her home because Berlin Oliver did not applied to be a nurse because she knew she would not be accepted. And when Berlin Oliver saw this young woman

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she began to speak out against segregation and discrimination.

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and she she already spoke out a lot. The prospected that the hospital got bad publicity

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and guess what they did. They admitted the 2 women. In 1944.

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They said. They'll try to make sure they graduate. And they did in October, 1,947, that is 76 years ago.

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So all I'm trying to say is that

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we need to look at the history and see that a lot has not changed.

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You know, if in 2,022. We're saying that, you know there's still racism, and people are talking about it. I found it, and I didn't look for it. When I started. I was looking at abuse, and it percolated from the ground up. And in a way, I'm glad, because the only people looking at this area in nursing happens to be racialized of

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researchers. And I can tell you it started with Wilson Head, who was a social worker, head of social work in 1985, we built on his work Gupta's work from 1,996, Collise in 1996, Collins, who was a dear friend of mine in 1999.

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has done a lot of work, and we looked at systemic racism and how it's organized in nursing, and nobody wanted to hear it at that time, because they'd like to put it under the carpet.

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So what we were trying to do is move it from the individual to the institutional systemic racism.

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And if you look at our Government in 2,015, the Harper Government brought out the Bill zealot 0 tolerance for Barbaric Cultures Practice Act, and it reached the royal ascent. I don't know if any of you remember it

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with 182 votes against 84, with the both the Conservatives and Liberals voting against it. It's really about abuse against women, and which we all support.

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But why did they have to put the word barbaric into this act.

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You know, and what Chris Alexander said at that time, he said, despite our best efforts and intentions, the reality is that some immigrant women do fear violence and abuse. And he went on to say, There's 0 tolerance.

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And so when we talk about multiculturalism. we know that it does not bring equity.

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and we have to go to advocacy, bringing like-minded people together to advocate for rights of everybody. So with black Lives matter, both the universities and the government wanted to show they understood race, and they started to change street names of people who were slave owners and who were known to be racist, like the name of Rice and University in Ontario.

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because Rison had links to Canada's residential schools. and so they changed the name in 2,022

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to the Toronto Metropolitan University, and took rise and out. So understanding social action rather than law

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will provide more equity in Canada. and we can have more social justice.

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and we don't have to look at the multicultural act. We can go to advocacy. So like-minded individuals, as I said, will bring about equity. And that's why I have more hope. Because just discussing this today.

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Hopeful, thank you very much. And I'm sorry I forgot.

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Oh, yes, of course.

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if you want to see the scheme.

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No, we will have the second presentation, but he's in this sense by Sheffield kochette from Sioux in France.

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about a sovereign caveat with no crudeers.

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I'm here. Can you hear me?

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Charlotte CORCHETE: Do you see my screen as well?

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Yeah. Yeah.

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Charlotte CORCHETE: Mit Ctl, and okay, thanks for that. So? I'm very happy to be here with you so this morning for you in my room, but I

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Charlotte CORCHETE: to nuts tonight for me, because it's one am in France. So I'm I'm Charlotte Cochet, and I'm a Phd. Student at sales for Paris, and I'm going to present you the first result of the survey experiments, the rule of human's queues in multicultural tensions at work, the case of France.

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Charlotte CORCHETE: So I'm going to start with a literature review

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Charlotte CORCHETE: mit Ctl and a recent feed experiment in France showed that there is a significant gap concerning call back rates between men and women from Megaby or regime candidates. One

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Charlotte CORCHETE: microbi origin. Women particularly particularly favored in male-dominated skills, occupations

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Charlotte CORCHETE: mit Ctl, and there is no significant gap in eye attention, occupations, while in occupation with the where the degree of tension is lower. Women are significantly favor 2

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Charlotte CORCHETE: mit. Ctl. And age plays a role as well. Between the ages of 23 and 30. There is no significant gap between Megaby men and women, while women are favor between the ages of 33, and 40. On average, one.

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Charlotte CORCHETE: Several studies have shown that certain educationalized group are perceive as having less human skills by on choreos. So non-white men. Some non white men might be perceive as less one than any other group which can explain discrimination in

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Charlotte CORCHETE: mit Ctl. And whereas whereas non-white women are also stereotypes, but are seen as more gentle, which is a stereotype as well, but that can lead to less discrimination concerning Job. Call back rates 150

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Charlotte CORCHETE: mit. Ctl. And and Prior's perceptions vary according to ethnicity as well as gender and to religion of the kind of dates. And, interestingly, a recent correspondence tests made in several European countries, and including with job applications, motivation later showed that male majority candidates were slightly penalized for signaling 150

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Charlotte CORCHETE: alone, or in combination with competence while made from Mena, minority candidate for Mena countries. So main minority candidates benefited most from, since simultaneously singering warmth and competence.

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Charlotte CORCHETE: more of a very interesting study concerning people looking for accommodation or Airbnb showed that there is no discrimination reducing effect. We've self-reported information on the Airbnb of 5, whereas information they developed in a positive command. So by a third party, or in an apartment, and having a steam, the person was it? Go to reduce ignorantial discrimination against African American men?

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Charlotte CORCHETE: In that case the information provided into comments was, so. The name of the fake profile from African-american men or white men is very friendly, and it's

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Charlotte CORCHETE: and others to deal both with discrimination. In Germany, labour markets, with the correspondent tests concerning 2 similar applications with Turkish versus German sounding name that was sent to a 500 advertisement for students in their chips 250

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Charlotte CORCHETE: mit. Ctl. And shows that discrimination disappears when the sample was restricted to application, including reference letters which contain favorable information, both the candidates personality one.

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Charlotte CORCHETE: So in that case the information provided was conf and chooseness and agree. I've been this sorry for my French accent

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Charlotte CORCHETE: erez agmoni. So the aim of my survey experience in France is to find what is the most important in a reference later, especially for for men of North North African or Gen. Were particularly at risk of discrimination, but also for women of North African origin, were also victims of discrimination. Is it one or competence. One

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Charlotte CORCHETE: erez agmoni. I wanted to make a show of experiments in France to explore the causes of fit. No racial discrimination in employment as measured by correspondence tests, because, to my knowledge, there is no survey experiments in friends. Both this issue there are lots of field experiments and correspondence tests, but no survey experiments 250

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Charlotte CORCHETE: mit. Ctl. And so, concerning the design of my study, I started. I started to do 21 interviews with all creatures in order to carry you to creative press survey to help build the questionnaire-based experiment, 250

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Charlotte CORCHETE: mit. Ctl. And then I launched A. So the experiment that was carried out with almost 7 and read the recruiters. But my survey experiments is still open and still going on, because I hope that's the final target sample will be around more than 1,000 respondents. 101,

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Charlotte CORCHETE:  concerning my qualitative results, Percy. The presence of references in the resume is a Cv. Or reference later provided by the candidates. It's perceived in France very positively by 18 respondents. So I didn't ask the question to this first interview, because it was an extraordinary

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Charlotte CORCHETE: The interview extracts that I put here shows that the reference later, and to reassure recruiters. So here, she said, that it's very re. It's reassuring for no for you, or what we us to know, that they can immediately notify people who recommend candidates. For instance, we could go back on that after

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Charlotte CORCHETE: for a small part of the sample migration, men are perceived as more uncontrollable.

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Charlotte CORCHETE: for some computers. This may explain the environment rates among men of this origins.

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Charlotte CORCHETE: my Strava experiment is a between subjects experiments which means that each participant is randomly assigned to one treatment only

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Charlotte CORCHETE: mit Ctl, and each recruiter add to evaluate only one application. They're made female and migrate, be of French candidates, and either with a resume on me or with the regime and the reference later one.

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Charlotte CORCHETE: And so the resumes and names I use was already validated by your former studio in France. The correspondent test I talked about at the beginning. So 101.

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Charlotte CORCHETE: So this is my warmth signal. So

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Charlotte CORCHETE: the first name, as many human qualities, is present or she is one art team player, create a positive working environment being attentive to the needs of others and so forth. So it's a trajectory in the English.

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Charlotte CORCHETE:  mit ctl, and so let's see the first results of the survey experiments so to the question as to the participants, both inviting to candidate for an interview. Megaby, women have a significant, positive effects, which mean they are better evaluated when the application is a combined by the reference later with one and competence. 150

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Charlotte CORCHETE: mit Ctl. And there is no significant difference between a Frenchman and women, a Frenchman or a Frenchman only with, or is me, or a Frenchman with all French women with, for as you may, and

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Charlotte CORCHETE: mit Ctl. And in terms of annual wage, the recommendation concerning the salary for microbes men is I when the application is accompanied by a reference later concerning the competence skills as well. 2.

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Charlotte CORCHETE: So yeah, yeah, you can see the question I ask as well, and there is no significant difference between this salary proposal. This is the mean that I can create in.

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Charlotte CORCHETE: I perform as well the Pca with the variables, measuring competence and warmth as the active variables that you can see here

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Charlotte CORCHETE: attempts I used to measure competence. And once it's a very good score.

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Charlotte CORCHETE: Yeah. I then the 0 point 6. So it's it's a very good cost. So it it work. And we can see that all the candidates, regardless of gender or origin, are it less idea on this creature, as I said, when they have on your resume, so on the left. But when we look at the cosine

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Charlotte CORCHETE: mit Ctl. And a square of the modalities. Here on the right, we see that the North African man with a warm signal is less well or presentated. On this axis. One is here 250.

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Charlotte CORCHETE: And so it means that they are seen as less competent, and one than the other group. Even when we put a reference later with one and competence for this group.

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Charlotte CORCHETE: we could go back on that. If you have any question.

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Charlotte CORCHETE: when ask you both to that, use work retails as a more positive view of game and lesbian people, because only 3% of full details, things that gay and it's been people are a group. But in society wide, between 10 and 12% of what creatures since that Jews, North Africans, and Muslims are groups of in society with a slightly higher percentage for Muslim.

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Charlotte CORCHETE: and a feature test with multicolored simulation, showed that the difference between these groups and gain, and the gay and Lesbian group was significant. One. So here for Mcgregor, people here for missing people

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Charlotte CORCHETE:  mit Ctl. And to conclude a reference later, seems to have a positive effect on the evaluation of made and female candidates with North African origin, whereas this is not the case for men and women with no foreign origin, 150

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Charlotte CORCHETE: mit. Ctl. And the sample is still small. So 691 respondents. So there are limitation. But first results seems to indicate that reference later with competence as a positive effect on migration for wage, and come back by reference letters with 150

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Charlotte CORCHETE: competence as a positive effect for migrated women, for call back on this. even when indicating the warm signal. North African men are perseverance less one than other group.

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Charlotte CORCHETE: And recruiters have more negative Jews on certain royal juice and ethnic groups, and seems to be more open about questions of sexual or intention

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Charlotte CORCHETE: which can lead to, which can lead to conflict in the world workplace concerning your ethnicity and origin.

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Charlotte CORCHETE: So thanks, Alex, and we'll be very happy to

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Charlotte CORCHETE: exchange review.

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Thank you very much. For this presentation I think we can see some costs.

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Which, between the 2 presentations.

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hello I am. And shelee. I am a researcher in sociology, in a Nam Paris and the Lisa Sienares laboratory.

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So I have a question to Charlotte.

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recruiters and the differences with the representation on the people's ever.

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Charlotte CORCHETE: should I? And so no. no more question.

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Oh, yes, we can have several questions. And after the discussion, yes, please.

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And I have a question for you. I'm working on nursing profession, medical profession, so I was very interested by your presentation.

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But, I would have like to hear a little bit more about what form of racism is taking place. In the nursing profession also! What do? do? organization! Are they doing something about that? And the unions? Are they concerned with that? So I would have like to hear a little bit more about

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what's happening. Thank you.

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Charlotte CORCHETE: thanks. It's a very interesting question, and that's what I want to do when I will has a bigger simple size. I will analyze by and also by sex, between work and and and by nationalities. I have a social, demographical questions, and I ask for the

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Charlotte CORCHETE: birth country of parents, and the Nationalist of the or for just so, yeah, I will. I will do that. Thanks for that.

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So thank you for the question.

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they did not promote racialized managers, and, in fact, try to take away our jobs in the 1,900 ninetys when the hospital sector employed it.

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of microaggressions like, you know. Oh, who are you? And when I said in 1,944, they said to the black nurses, They don't want to admit them. The same thing was happening in the universities with the Phd programs. And all of that. It's better now

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because it's come to the forefront. But you know, that's why I took sociology, perhaps, and didn't go for a Phd. In nursing. Does that answer some of your questions? But I think the lived experienced.

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to see the behavior. So I have those documents, and I produce it in my Phd thesis.

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the other of communication at the end.

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good morning, or good afternoon. Everybody. Thanks a lot. I'm very happy.

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the research methodology. I want to show you some results. And to conclude, point on the social, an intellectual competencies and social support resources also.

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And what we wanted to say is that there is a very little recent research on the work of the flight attidance. So I put some examples. Some of them were carried out in a single airline in sociology, on topology, or are debtied, and some recent research are on other professions, like, for example, in the aviation industry with a pilot, helicopters, or in other disciplines, in economics, history or anthropology.

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So finally, our research in sociology of work on the work of cabin crew in several airlines is therefore a little bit rare. So it's interesting for that, too.

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And what I wanted to add is that there is a context of change in this professional sector to be analyzed with more material organization or technical and safety contents, there is an increase in safety and security standards and commercial service with diversification and intensification of work.

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There is also a point of specific working conditions, and there are deterioration, according to most of the unions representing the employees with risk factors.

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And so it's interesting for that to to have this analyze on this type of research and links can be made also with other professional categories in tourism, public relations, civil security, and maybe also in Earth.

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So we wanted to add the point of the postcovid transformations and pick up of aviation, because the Boscovi travelers picked up after an all lime loud during the covid, and now we are returning to prick of its livers, and more people are traveling from different countries and creators.

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There are also new green or greener fuels which are being developed for deccarbonation, and carries a longage in putting more of this in their total fuel. So the transition needs to be accelerated, in fact, with avid electric and hydrogen, coward aircraft and sustainable adjacent fruits.

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and for this study on the International and Antarctica to all dimensions. concerns. The aspect of relations with travelers in the context of exchange on the plane, but also the work and cooperative relations with other Cabinet coup colleagues.

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because in this case we are traveling far away.

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with precise tasks to be fulfilled with professional exchange between cabin crew and interactions with the passenger

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the passengers who, in their position as customer travelers in this very particular Ombudsman, that is, an airplane feel they have rights and duties

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in part color that, or determine by their Scriptures or personal sensitivities.

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which permit to to understand what is at stakes, who socially exchange with a social role that each person must all and play in the context of light. Also intellectual studies at work with Cultur, an international point at work, sociology, of identities of war, collective work, theory of social regulations.

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and also different authors worked on integral competence and defined it as the ability to communicate successfully with people from other cultures. So it is a self- competence.

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So it's very interesting definitions, and also the fact that some authors are not disagree. In fact, for example, anti-competence is distinct from social competence. For some motors or integral competence is social competence. In Ontario context

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so little difference.

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There is also the definition of multicultural competence which is the ability to understand and adapt to the specificity of interpretable interaction.

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notably for umpathy.

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open mindedness, and emotional stability. So finally, it's the ability to understand and adapt to undercutral interaction.

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Main walking hypothesis for us is the fact that Nova Scotia and rules are important competence required for the flight at a dance.

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and also certain situations are determined by virtual or no more or or or individual specificities of the passengers. And so this require for the flight. Antonons, a work on social adaptation and social regulation.

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And the hypothesis 2 is that specific skills, competence, are developed in the international, anti-codile and very coded work of the flight Antonons

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and more than the airline companies demands

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require.

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So the metropolis very quick. We we had several

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data collection moments and types with a quantitative research and an online questionerry anonymous with almost 2,000, a response.

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And we also made the partnership and collaborative research with airline unions and the association of European unions

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for that to develop this this research and the different selection of data.

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And we also have a qualitative research. Many bias on interviews with one on word, qualitative interviews. In France, Canada, and Germany. We've set, for example, and diversity of professional situations.

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and also we used direct observations of the work of cabin crew doing the flight and different social situation with cartoon questions.

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For example, the difficult relations are conflicts with or between passengers. So here's a to some part of the question, are we?

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 just this slide is to to show the standards of multiple origins and the ampoton of startarts of multiple or positos app and walls with safety and suction, for example, to be checked, to be applied, and to be followed before boarding of passenger during the flight after the flight.

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and we also have the the question of walking conditions with A typical walking time with short medium and long holes. And the fact that their work schedules is atypical and do not respect segregation. okay.

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And the hours of fly work are defined in various way. and the fact that walking schedules are variable. So it's a fragmentation and eternity of time. So it's interesting to know that.

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And we also have a like, the professional mission activities and crew. Organizations of work are mainly in a double mission.

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first of safety security, and also in commercial service to passengers. So safety and security is, in fact, the most important task of cabin crew

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who have to be aware of the safety of security of all passengers.

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and also in flight, commercial service, and volition, ship it with passengers, with sometimes emotional strain, with return from exposure to passengers

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with a nectar's activity on board. We are hard on fast work, a lot of tasks. Flight under those are regularly interrupted by passenger or pilot requests.

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which is their work.

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and also interesting is the fact that the organization of fork and the management of working time have the effect of constituting for the direction of a rotation on ephemeral crew. So it means that flight on the don't have to learn very quick to work all together.

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which, in fact, is covered by the showing of many common professional rules. They have to team up for each flight, and

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it's important to have a cool-level walk, collective on body aircraft, with

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at the same time autonomous, autonomous, and spontaneous collective regulation, and also a strong walk through and a high profit journalism.

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and we have to point the wall of the cabin chief as first line proximity management

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because you have some tasks, the same task than other flight or the dams, but also other tax. You also have control, regulation, function.

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mediation, world's activities, for example, to deal in case of intercutable situation.

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because a cabin crew is supposed to make things easier.

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So it's important to show the supportive coup and cooperative collective work which makes everyone's work easier. So I have some sentences from the flight at A down where they

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they say Timwork is very essential and put on to Walker

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collectively in a group to to deal with different kind of problems. It's a very support resource.

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for example, we have. this, this, this was a

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which shows that if I want to relationship with colleagues among female and male cabin crew members. for example, they point that there is a good team spirit at work that the interaction with other flight notads are generally good, co-workers are competent.

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A posture is essential to the work of cabin crew.

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and also they are attentive to the fact that they have to build a personal relationship with colleagues doing the layover, for example. But it shows that

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the work, the collective work is very important, and they need cooperation and solidarity doing the plane. And after the plane or so.

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just in addition to the to this results.

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 there is sometimes a in more common work situations. So they feel stressful because of lack of resources because of intensification of work, the lack of material resources. Some company pressures like in time pressure.

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and also the change on they remarking, passengers be of your because they be, they remarked, more difficult and risky passengers.

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Some cases, for example, of a red.

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So, in a way, in one hand, you have

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a standardized exchange between passengers and cabin crew, but in certain situations which need to be managed. You have cultural norms and differences which are expressed.

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For example, when you have your only passengers. they can have also dissatisfaction with flight, delays with flying conditions, not comfortable seats, for example, they can also have collective outburst.

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You for the passenger. the The flight contents have also to deal with. Of course, medical case of emergencies, individual distress. So skills are needed to avoid or manage conflicts which in a plane is very useful.

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and they have so sometimes difficulties with some passengers.

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even in the work, business class or economic class, and on the plane, it can happen

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so they have to work in usual situations, and also to manage unusual situations. For example, tensions, an antacular situation to we manage

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by the flight underdogs, and also by the

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You can have. For example, turnstone conflicts with passengers or between passengers like in system, various request interactions. They want to change seeds. They always ask for information. You can also have inappropriate passengers. They have your. They speak loudly, they are taking a space of the neighborhood seat. It happened to me last time twice.

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They can also have aggressive behavior in shirts, opposition, dissatisfaction, and sometimes depend on the plane's destination. Specific religious situations as priest on the aircraft floor. So they can do that.

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of course, then flight entrepreneurs have to manage the situations with if I want to. So I want to to point the fact that the current resources are the colleagues. So it's collective resources and individual skills.

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So it's social regulation and professional adaptation.

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 so they have to analyze

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these anti-cultural dimensions of their work.

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Thus they have to take into account the situation in which the intercourse is expressed, and the set of rules and standardized frameworks learn by the flight at, and don't at the same time, and they also have to be open and adapt to the specific cities, including portable ones.

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So one of the interesting results are on the professional and and integral skills competence. They have a wide range of social and and interpretable competitors which are verbal and nonverbal other than those learned in the initial training

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and developed with experience in this international work context, for example, communication, listening, open mindedness, understanding, acceptance, inclusion, caring sometimes because they have to care. Some passengers

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also competence in adaptation. don't I see?

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And emotional work? I think yesterday we some of the presenter users this concept from a orchard which he developed on the flight and the dance and emotional stability, too.

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So these important skills influence the work behavior of the cabin crew and the way they carry out their work, and the resolution of tension of pontoon complex among colleagues, but also with passengers.

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and I had that to collective work or so, because the source of the cabin coincidence.

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I need those colleagues and also need team of communication. And I want to add that.

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But I didn't develop this aspect.

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but I want to add that most of the authors talks on interpretable competencies as individual. But I would like to to analyze more the fact that it can also be collective, collective, and to to all competencies.

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because they have to to to manage together the way they adapt, and the way they respond to the situation, too, and they can exchange them together on the specifics specific specificities of the situation.

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So it's a

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question of collective competence to

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I think I am on the Co question already. Okay, is it? Okay?

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So

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yes, that's it's what I wanted to had, in fact, on my conclusion, is the fact that they are also individual. But I think it's also collective competencies, entrepreneurial competencies, or multicultural competencies.

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And so

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I wanted to add to that sociology as knowledge and as practice. It's so useful and important to develop these competencies.

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because

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sociology at us to understand the other culture, and to be to analyze

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different Couture, even if we are not from this culture.

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So it's very important. It's multi cortical copper tenses different from the enterprise competencies. For example, you can learn because of your trajectories, your education, your training, but also

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you can learn by your other experiences. And

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socio-. So that's for a solution.

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So now in the filter, we can see that there is an increasing air traffic volume as activities, even in the context of climate change with our government around us.

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And this program of Gwyn aircraft and the carbon is so in this context of increasing globalization and internationalization, these skills and organization of work are even more necessary

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with the social and integral competencies, and also with the support resources of the cool level work collective on board. So this collective work can help and develop the

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Allies on the deal, the integral situation in the aircraft.

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But we can see also that it's not so easy because of the diversification and the intensification of work. Some of these skills activities are difficult for flattened to develop. especially in case of intensification of work.

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Well.

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I thank you

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some of

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some references. We wrote some articles or chapters of books we would with J. And Gabriel.

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Thank you very much.

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But

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thank you very much to you. Thank you. And again, for this presentation. And we we see the the case of coming who is very

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the University of Montreal about experiencing discrimination, but by neuralize it, workers. But before I have to

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and she's going, she normally calls.

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Carole Yerochewski: Okay, I I thank you.

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Carole Yerochewski: I I am going to share.

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Carole Yerochewski: Okay.

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Carole Yerochewski: so that's a for you. Now.

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Carole Yerochewski: okay.

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Carole Yerochewski: so just a moment, because

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Carole Yerochewski: I need to do something.

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Carole Yerochewski: Me?

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Carole Yerochewski: Okay.

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there.

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Carole Yerochewski: So

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Carole Yerochewski:  okay.

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Carole Yerochewski: But I'm

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Carole Yerochewski: they like it to be literally with you

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Carole Yerochewski: this morning, which correct to the the early evening in Montreal.

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Carole Yerochewski: Not tonight. From

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Carole Yerochewski: in this communication I'm going to present the results of a questionnaire that has been you know, I mean use sorry, zoom and is workplaces

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Carole Yerochewski: for reasons of confidentiality I won't name the same time level body involved.

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Carole Yerochewski: however, in view of all the surveys to created in you know I need to play workplaces by other unions. We can assume that What you are about to see is in

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Carole Yerochewski: no way specific to the workplace today, even in the reaction of local unions aspects I will deal with in my conclusion

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Carole Yerochewski: the striking results don't seem to be specific to any particular sometimes.

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Carole Yerochewski: So.

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Carole Yerochewski: sorry. So here is a is a plan.

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Carole Yerochewski: First, the methodology. the specificities of the many results.

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Carole Yerochewski: and some question and

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Carole Yerochewski: consideration in as conclusion, naming and committing systemic racism.

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Carole Yerochewski: Okay?

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Carole Yerochewski:  so

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Carole Yerochewski: the

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Carole Yerochewski: his dinner. we want it to understand what

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Carole Yerochewski: happened since the workplace.

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Carole Yerochewski: I was systemic. Her system manifests itself. We had announced in this in the introduction to the Survey.

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Carole Yerochewski: and we still collect it to all the Union member. Not only people, okay.

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Carole Yerochewski: And we W. Correctly avoided and do seen a response about what dresses versus discrimination was. We wanted to know how people qualified, what they had experienced or witnesses.

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Carole Yerochewski: So there were both closed and open question in the

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Carole Yerochewski: so serving as a Christian

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Carole Yerochewski: my Internet.

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Carole Yerochewski: because the trade unions

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Carole Yerochewski: made circulate by Internet. It's a necessary sample of one and 2

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Carole Yerochewski: and silly. The literature says that. So yes, it's rather educated people, not socially is elected who answer.

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Carole Yerochewski: But in any case, in

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Carole Yerochewski: it's the case, and and

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Carole Yerochewski: also in among wrestlers, people or many me are more highly educated than the

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Carole Yerochewski: that's not really a best year for us. because of it. It was a

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Carole Yerochewski: members of the Union.

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Carole Yerochewski:  and in general Union members are less is elected. But of course we don't claim. I I don't claim to be strategically representative so we but

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Carole Yerochewski: so results with

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Carole Yerochewski: key squared test, etc.

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Carole Yerochewski:  however, we can achieve very good responses with by the other Internet.

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Carole Yerochewski:  Oh, people said that Lee charges that 2.5% is already a questionable here. It's a 4 persons.

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Carole Yerochewski:  and you can see there was a

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Carole Yerochewski: 1,859 women.

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Carole Yerochewski: So more woman. But there are more women members in the unions studies

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Carole Yerochewski: and I already

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Carole Yerochewski: more than not only one sort of wrestling people if we I did to ethnic minorities also many minorities because we add at the end of the questioner question about.

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Carole Yerochewski: but to

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Carole Yerochewski: identification of like

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Carole Yerochewski: are you a man, woman, or there, do you consider a number of opposite pop? Original people? Russia is people, and so on. Some people as months

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Carole Yerochewski: mentioned. they belong to ethnic minorities, but not but experimented

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Carole Yerochewski: systemic or racism discrimination.

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Carole Yerochewski:  what is? Yeah, in interesting years, that's  

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Carole Yerochewski: We'd like to think that Russia is people that are less committed, less involved.

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Carole Yerochewski: But here their participation are very important.

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Carole Yerochewski: And

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Carole Yerochewski: it's a little more than the average for their representation in the workplace since studio

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Carole Yerochewski: but as we are in Montreal. We didn't cover the whole of Quebec.

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Carole Yerochewski: we know that, Montreal as the ais concentrations of rationalist people.

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Carole Yerochewski: so  we

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Carole Yerochewski: we can say that it's

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Carole Yerochewski: not to serve representation. But

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Carole Yerochewski: now we can say that Russia is, people are not motivated in responding and participate. And so

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Carole Yerochewski: we know that because we have questions about that.

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Carole Yerochewski: that's a 77% of respondents are involved in union live. The figure is 87%.

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Carole Yerochewski: So it's a a a good percentage

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Carole Yerochewski: no. I'm questioning here on 2 variables.

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Carole Yerochewski: Rest of the existence on gender. because, as we shall see, there, these are involved in the

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Carole Yerochewski: and to the question I am interested in here.

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Carole Yerochewski: and the the question here is, it's an open and question is, have you experienced or witnesses injustice or discriminatory treatment. If so, please give us an example.

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Carole Yerochewski: So it's very important. They give us one example.

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Carole Yerochewski:  so to exploit the data with as best of where I first add to the in service.

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Carole Yerochewski: and this create analysis categories based on the answer in an adjective approach.

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Carole Yerochewski: Of course I do on the literature which remains fairly discrete about what happens in the workplace, even though this is a measure concern

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Carole Yerochewski: for the people as

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Carole Yerochewski: some metre. Actually, I'm only pointed.

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Carole Yerochewski: We do know, however, that refugees to recreate or promote, and the deviation of skills are recurrent problems.

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Carole Yerochewski: This is not to say over that we can blame international as well as we explicitly challenge the law.

546
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Carole Yerochewski: This is the subject of systemic racism as Victor. How many points out.

547
01:21:03.900 --> 01:21:15.840
Carole Yerochewski: So subjective experience of systemic discrimination arises from participation in a social interaction in which an actor and those with authority.

548
01:21:16.360 --> 01:21:30.209
Carole Yerochewski: we'll get less of whether this authority is formal or informal, Martian of symbolic, explicit, or implied, etc., locally. actually, the relationship of structural inequality

549
01:21:30.710 --> 01:21:35.209
Carole Yerochewski: so open and did question like Zoom.

550
01:21:37.100 --> 01:21:43.029
Carole Yerochewski: do you experience and give an example, please,

551
01:21:43.530 --> 01:21:46.190
Carole Yerochewski: appeal to subjective experience

552
01:21:49.130 --> 01:21:50.610
Carole Yerochewski: and sorry.

553
01:21:55.060 --> 01:21:57.290
Carole Yerochewski: and the

554
01:21:57.330 --> 01:22:01.600
Carole Yerochewski: it's different from the notion of perceptions.

555
01:22:03.690 --> 01:22:05.640
Carole Yerochewski: they are at the nexus

556
01:22:05.690 --> 01:22:09.670
Carole Yerochewski: of phenomena structural

557
01:22:10.870 --> 01:22:21.610
Carole Yerochewski:  like socioeconomic inequality of protecting versus people.

558
01:22:21.860 --> 01:22:30.960
Carole Yerochewski: confinement to specific sectors of activity and refugee to recreate for skills, jobs or promotion

559
01:22:31.360 --> 01:22:33.950
Carole Yerochewski: and

560
01:22:34.050 --> 01:22:40.539
Carole Yerochewski: individual phenomena like, actually. So so it's possible to

561
01:22:41.230 --> 01:22:52.120
Carole Yerochewski: the actualization of situation, of inequality by individuals in position of power link to the explicit or implicit positions of

562
01:22:52.360 --> 01:22:56.879
Carole Yerochewski: organization. Like management, are your qualifications

563
01:22:57.250 --> 01:23:00.439
Carole Yerochewski: like teacher?

564
01:23:01.960 --> 01:23:06.180
Carole Yerochewski:  there's a those things we we know

565
01:23:06.470 --> 01:23:11.730
Carole Yerochewski: and about out to what we can.

566
01:23:11.790 --> 01:23:16.210
Carole Yerochewski: expect to to read it in the responses.

567
01:23:16.360 --> 01:23:20.660
Carole Yerochewski: So we also know that there are frequent make for aggressions.

568
01:23:20.980 --> 01:23:28.450
Carole Yerochewski: What we're going to do. They're called repetitive on corrosive but legally and asiable, make for inequities.

569
01:23:28.570 --> 01:23:33.319
Carole Yerochewski: And but he is a systemic nature of racism and discrimination.

570
01:23:34.790 --> 01:23:43.949
Carole Yerochewski: So let's not forget the definition of systemic racism as a and social relationship, rooted in institutions

571
01:23:44.050 --> 01:23:49.210
Carole Yerochewski: where individual and collective practices. where they are in

572
01:23:49.290 --> 01:23:53.649
Carole Yerochewski: no intentional or not intermingle.

573
01:23:56.040 --> 01:23:57.990
Carole Yerochewski: So

574
01:23:58.130 --> 01:24:11.639
Carole Yerochewski: put in. Yet in other way, it takes individuals who commit often in internationally make for aggression, for the structure of inequality to be actually that and reproduced.

575
01:24:11.720 --> 01:24:14.430
Carole Yerochewski: So the importance to see

576
01:24:14.830 --> 01:24:20.980
Carole Yerochewski: to appeal to subjective experience and to examine the social actor interaction.

577
01:24:24.080 --> 01:24:35.440
Carole Yerochewski: So now some results. and the first of the result. you

578
01:24:35.730 --> 01:24:37.350
Carole Yerochewski: I present.

579
01:24:37.890 --> 01:24:40.070
Carole Yerochewski: in fact.

580
01:24:41.660 --> 01:24:43.990
Carole Yerochewski: us. or

581
01:24:44.050 --> 01:24:49.450
Carole Yerochewski: the members creating a new one can. And, sir.

582
01:24:49.990 --> 01:24:58.310
Carole Yerochewski: 2 main categories category of in this category of

583
01:24:59.480 --> 01:25:04.570
Carole Yerochewski: versus discrimination. And the zoom

584
01:25:05.070 --> 01:25:15.350
Carole Yerochewski:  pematic  but which is the more

585
01:25:16.070 --> 01:25:18.780
Carole Yerochewski: well, the thematic I created.

586
01:25:18.830 --> 01:25:28.060
Carole Yerochewski:  there are also 2 met 6. But with our team since that, so we can see.

587
01:25:28.100 --> 01:25:29.379
Carole Yerochewski: But

588
01:25:29.950 --> 01:25:36.689
Carole Yerochewski: is this all the more important mentioned? for each category.

589
01:25:38.260 --> 01:25:51.440
Carole Yerochewski:  So as for the the credit I I code it. It was the work press service, was it?

590
01:25:51.530 --> 01:26:06.199
Carole Yerochewski: Semantic possibilities were more limited than asking broadly about experience of discriminations. here one of the challenges was more to this language. Between what happens with

591
01:26:06.430 --> 01:26:14.510
Carole Yerochewski: I you have to call superiors colleagues of

592
01:26:14.570 --> 01:26:21.729
Carole Yerochewski: always employees with all the qualifications on this slide. So

593
01:26:22.490 --> 01:26:23.280
Carole Yerochewski: the

594
01:26:24.720 --> 01:26:30.229
Carole Yerochewski: it's to illustrate the distinction between injustice and the rest is discrimination

595
01:26:31.270 --> 01:26:41.920
Carole Yerochewski:  in individual injustice. so Experience is conjugated with the items.

596
01:26:42.130 --> 01:26:48.019
Carole Yerochewski: My boss met me alone to talk to me and criticize my personality

597
01:26:48.140 --> 01:27:05.920
Carole Yerochewski: over time of first randomly, don't text in a routine to account unfair to be forced to take vacation only when they want to. My salary step was miscalculated, and the support of my union was invaluable in directive for you, the matter

598
01:27:06.840 --> 01:27:10.300
Carole Yerochewski: paying for, and to which I'm not entitled to.

599
01:27:10.530 --> 01:27:22.300
Carole Yerochewski: Up until last year. My employee 5 indicated that I was a smoker, without asking me or expanding the importance of it or impact of this information.

600
01:27:23.320 --> 01:27:31.920
Carole Yerochewski: But for us, this discrimination. we, as boarding and unknown compliance with the collective agreement

601
01:27:32.610 --> 01:27:36.120
Carole Yerochewski: which

602
01:27:36.230 --> 01:27:39.370
Carole Yerochewski: for it, teams towards non-resident people.

603
01:27:39.570 --> 01:27:41.380
Carole Yerochewski: It's the we

604
01:27:41.720 --> 01:27:43.330
Carole Yerochewski: since

605
01:27:43.500 --> 01:27:51.449
Carole Yerochewski: so refresh all to gave leaves and fns in the volume of work given to immigrants.

606
01:27:51.710 --> 01:27:57.170
Carole Yerochewski: Also, they have no right to make mistakes compared to

607
01:27:58.030 --> 01:28:02.779
Carole Yerochewski: increased the regions of visible minorities for work breaks

608
01:28:05.590 --> 01:28:12.399
Carole Yerochewski: that was against Asian, or or what was written.

609
01:28:12.800 --> 01:28:16.750
Carole Yerochewski: When we want our complaints to be taken seriously.

610
01:28:16.850 --> 01:28:22.669
Carole Yerochewski: we pass them on through our white colleagues. It works, for sure.

611
01:28:23.430 --> 01:28:24.880
Carole Yerochewski: For example.

612
01:28:24.950 --> 01:28:29.339
Carole Yerochewski: when a Co. Has and sleep at work is asked if it's

613
01:28:29.580 --> 01:28:40.850
Carole Yerochewski: he's asked if he's doing well. it's called gently to wake him up. They want to understand they management.

614
01:28:40.980 --> 01:28:48.400
Carole Yerochewski: If it is a person of color. there is a photo session, a meeting award, an email, and even a reprimand.

615
01:28:55.490 --> 01:28:56.410
Carole Yerochewski: Okay.

616
01:29:01.900 --> 01:29:03.949
Carole Yerochewski: second.

617
01:29:03.970 --> 01:29:11.819
Carole Yerochewski:  is important, and it's

618
01:29:12.220 --> 01:29:20.510
Carole Yerochewski: unexpected result. In fact.  you.

619
01:29:20.780 --> 01:29:30.420
Carole Yerochewski: we can see the number of people who says they have experienced at least one instance of injustice or discriminatory treatment of

620
01:29:30.660 --> 01:29:35.030
Carole Yerochewski: discrimination. 70% of

621
01:29:35.620 --> 01:29:41.230
Carole Yerochewski: for the all the

622
01:29:41.510 --> 01:29:44.780
Carole Yerochewski: of 2,600

623
01:29:45.150 --> 01:29:48.210
Carole Yerochewski: 86 answers to.

624
01:29:49.200 --> 01:29:51.050
Carole Yerochewski: So it's a

625
01:29:51.390 --> 01:29:56.140
Carole Yerochewski:  an important

626
01:29:56.450 --> 01:29:59.069
Carole Yerochewski: proportion of

627
01:29:59.300 --> 01:30:03.160
Carole Yerochewski: people who, on on the the question.

628
01:30:11.510 --> 01:30:17.489
Carole Yerochewski: In addition, there is also 603 people

629
01:30:17.690 --> 01:30:24.209
Carole Yerochewski: 22 point 4 of those who responded to the survey question. There

630
01:30:24.590 --> 01:30:31.089
Carole Yerochewski: they add witnesses, and in just this or discriminatory treatment.

631
01:30:33.440 --> 01:30:41.310
Carole Yerochewski: But some of them say they add also experience, so we can't add them up. But it's closer, in fact.

632
01:30:41.340 --> 01:30:43.320
Carole Yerochewski: to 40%

633
01:30:43.410 --> 01:30:47.700
Carole Yerochewski: the number of people

634
01:30:47.860 --> 01:30:52.569
Carole Yerochewski: who can sick the they see, or they experience something.

635
01:30:54.310 --> 01:30:55.970
Carole Yerochewski: And

636
01:30:58.030 --> 01:31:10.039
Carole Yerochewski: This is so really an unexpected result, but particularly revenue of the that I companies lean management, etc.

637
01:31:10.250 --> 01:31:14.090
Carole Yerochewski: And which hasn't been stressed enough

638
01:31:18.210 --> 01:31:28.959
Carole Yerochewski:  to understand the results and the to keep confidentiality. we

639
01:31:29.020 --> 01:31:38.010
Carole Yerochewski: I I didn't give the results for each. But I made

640
01:31:38.700 --> 01:31:46.690
Carole Yerochewski:  I would say. Recruitment of by my job, by

641
01:31:46.800 --> 01:31:59.940
Carole Yerochewski: kind of jobs you want. That's what you can read the school support jobs, technical and administrative support, particularly in high school. So it different from school.

642
01:32:00.110 --> 01:32:08.760
Carole Yerochewski: It's higher.  it's a in the representation, a little higher

643
01:32:08.890 --> 01:32:09.920
Carole Yerochewski: teaching

644
01:32:09.990 --> 01:32:20.790
Carole Yerochewski: high school. university. So the teacher, low, skilled job in else social services. Sorry for the

645
01:32:20.980 --> 01:32:25.189
excuse me, you have to to conclude, please.

646
01:32:25.890 --> 01:32:33.080
Carole Yerochewski: Oh, okay, take 1Â min. Okay.  so

647
01:32:37.520 --> 01:32:52.610
Carole Yerochewski:  what? I just shows the the, the jet positive. So we can see also that there is a problem of sexes inside the

648
01:32:53.050 --> 01:32:54.450
Carole Yerochewski: and justice

649
01:32:54.590 --> 01:33:00.360
Carole Yerochewski: but the sexism is buried under racism

650
01:33:00.430 --> 01:33:03.639
Carole Yerochewski: for

651
01:33:03.830 --> 01:33:10.949
Carole Yerochewski: that's the more important for her is the racism the they confront.

652
01:33:11.690 --> 01:33:21.439
Carole Yerochewski: and there are many also. And the other thing is that even if

653
01:33:21.650 --> 01:33:42.379
Carole Yerochewski: people workers are many to to say they experiment injustices or discrimination. We have to see to to remarks that

654
01:33:42.710 --> 01:33:45.000
Carole Yerochewski: as

655
01:33:45.400 --> 01:33:47.760
Carole Yerochewski: 3

656
01:33:48.010 --> 01:33:48.950
Carole Yerochewski: it's all right.

657
01:33:50.840 --> 01:33:52.660
Carole Yerochewski: Okay,

658
01:33:55.020 --> 01:33:59.549
Carole Yerochewski: So 3 times more likely to suffer discriminations.

659
01:34:00.299 --> 01:34:10.000
Carole Yerochewski: So here I stop for that. That's okay. And I can say it was our thing about completion in the

660
01:34:11.139 --> 01:34:12.680
Carole Yerochewski: answer. Any question.

661
01:34:13.500 --> 01:34:14.879
Yes, thank you.

662
01:34:17.660 --> 01:34:28.020
You show the the the importance of the in Texas and in Text Section all our but the also in the in.

663
01:34:28.530 --> 01:34:31.690
I see. No.

664
01:34:31.969 --> 01:34:37.040
we can start to. Oh, I'll move on.

665
01:34:39.150 --> 01:34:42.789
We can start the of questions and comments.

666
01:34:42.969 --> 01:34:48.060
I don't know if some of you want to ask the questions.

667
01:34:49.639 --> 01:34:51.880
 yes, please.

668
01:34:53.260 --> 01:34:55.750
would you? I told you to?

669
01:34:55.809 --> 01:35:18.429
Yes, I am means Thomas from Toulouse University, and I have a question for an for her presentation on on the flight stewards. And it's all very all. All presentations were very interesting. And I was just thinking about your subject. I think the session subject was inter cultural relations something like this.

670
01:35:18.450 --> 01:35:20.629
And I I

671
01:35:20.670 --> 01:35:44.929
couldn't really distinguish what was intercultural. in your study, because, of course, as I can. Give an example. For example, we all know airlines. So so we know sometimes there may be intercultural interactions, and also that flight attendants are with language. And all this kind of. I think there was one line about religion, and

672
01:35:44.930 --> 01:35:54.290
in a way, but we know that these questions are not very often does not do not appear very often in in

673
01:35:55.230 --> 01:36:18.169
how to say in in the real life. So, for for example, when I had my last flight, I was on Singapore airlines. I I told the flight attendant to not to wake me up for beverages and for eating, and they systematically baked me up. So we we we we can interpret it, of of of some kind of inter cultural relations, because.

674
01:36:18.170 --> 01:36:28.319
they have some kind of culture of over service in Southeast Asia, you know, in hotels, and they want to show that they are really active, that they give you things.

675
01:36:28.320 --> 01:36:46.910
And for me, it could be seen as a nonrespect of the customer relations. We have usual social relations. So I I I put this example to give you the opportunity a little bit to say what is really intercultural, what is usual customer relations, what is? And how did you?

676
01:36:46.910 --> 01:37:01.190
What? Maybe some really cases of intercultural conflicts, or you have seen or or you have heard about, which are different from just the work situation. It seems to me that you have not

677
01:37:01.190 --> 01:37:04.510
researched intercultural relations, but that you have

678
01:37:04.520 --> 01:37:12.660
questions, your material after on the focus of intercultural relations. Am I right, or am I wrong? Or

679
01:37:13.080 --> 01:37:26.960
yes, it works. Yes, thank you for your question, because it's also a question I have for this research, too, because sometimes the frontiers

680
01:37:27.120 --> 01:37:38.109
between social situations and more generalized, more general and intercutable situations are very closed, in fact.

681
01:37:38.150 --> 01:37:39.870
and

682
01:37:40.030 --> 01:37:41.050
but

683
01:37:41.240 --> 01:37:58.579
saying that some situations of conflicts or tension, for example, between passengers, can be viewed also, like integral relations and enterprise situations.

684
01:37:58.660 --> 01:38:03.740
I could say several examples. But

685
01:38:03.840 --> 01:38:13.780
and I don't want to be neither in the stereotypes, you see, because there are types of behavior in the plane

686
01:38:14.100 --> 01:38:21.249
depending on the passengers to their attitude, for example, to the ostes. Sometimes

687
01:38:22.540 --> 01:38:27.270
that's it, and also, for example,

688
01:38:27.800 --> 01:38:38.450
conflicts between the passengers. So they have. It's not always the different ones, and the frontiers is not always on the object.

689
01:38:39.630 --> 01:38:42.960
but it's also on the way they respond

690
01:38:43.130 --> 01:38:54.530
to the conflicts and to the tensions. For example, to deal a conflict between passengers.

691
01:38:54.540 --> 01:38:57.650
 Oh.

692
01:38:57.690 --> 01:39:05.749
do something, I mean, if he did some, if he if he acts, he'll have to take care of the, for example, of the 2 creatures.

693
01:39:06.600 --> 01:39:35.759
you don't. It doesn't have always to to do a normalized response. So it's more in terms of a response than in terms of type of situations. I could say, because the function is very close. But sometimes I said very briefly, but, for example, it's my case, but I was in the plane last week, and I was seated the nearby 2 persons in different places in the 2 flights, I mean.

694
01:39:35.760 --> 01:40:04.720
One of them was a man. I was in Arizona when one of them was a man. It was very. He spoke very loud, for example, and it was very not aggressive, but very, very. It seems very busy. He wanted always to walk, and so on, and it could be a social situation. But it's also a cultural situation, I think, in the way they have to to manage the people

695
01:40:04.750 --> 01:40:07.559
to deal and to

696
01:40:07.880 --> 01:40:32.420
that's it. And another was one lady next to me. She was always, you know, be very take a lot of place. And as she was older than me, she thought I was. Maybe the girl who has a to respond to her demands. So she was always asking me a lot of things in Indiana

697
01:40:32.650 --> 01:40:56.570
and I. She didn't understand English, for example. So it was, in fact, me who would deal with her. But I had to. Yes, so it's a is a way you. You respond to this situation. So you have to adapt. You have to be a open-minded and open open minded. Yes, and the way and I have empathy to 150.

698
01:40:56.930 --> 01:41:10.180
That's it, for example. And yeah, so there are other cultural situations, for example. So people who want to do their priest in the airplane

699
01:41:10.260 --> 01:41:12.910
floor. So they do heat.

700
01:41:13.130 --> 01:41:19.620
and so sometimes they have to to deal with that and with the other passengers.

701
01:41:19.760 --> 01:41:26.309
And yes, sometimes it depends on the behavior and the way they respond to the behavior.

702
01:41:27.940 --> 01:41:33.240
I hope I also. But it's a very important question. Yes. thank you. And

703
01:41:33.330 --> 01:41:43.760
that's a question. Yes, we have 5, 10Â min. I I was wondering, and thank you for all for presentation.

704
01:41:43.950 --> 01:41:45.860
It was very interesting.

705
01:41:46.980 --> 01:41:51.670
I was wondering if the question of

706
01:41:51.730 --> 01:42:15.640
there is something that it's not stabilized, I think, actually, in what you are studying. I mean, like, it's strange, because we understand in chocolateurel intersectionality and stuff like that, Charlotte, to serve, and, like Carol, very interesting and main trainings of the Lakeball market.

707
01:42:16.060 --> 01:42:19.959
which we can notice and observe

708
01:42:20.010 --> 01:42:31.070
discriminations, racism, systemic racism depends which country we are speaking about. I think that we need to go further, because

709
01:42:31.780 --> 01:42:42.720
I think that this is very different. To speak about a compartment behavior of people in a plane, for example.

710
01:42:42.870 --> 01:42:47.280
and the intercultural is something that can explain. But I'm

711
01:42:47.330 --> 01:42:54.909
and I think that it's a way of behaving in a in a plane like, if we take the plane like an industry.

712
01:42:55.080 --> 01:42:59.299
and the client is at the center. Okay? So

713
01:42:59.360 --> 01:43:09.080
I don't know. I I would like to to to ask you. I have no, no, a little comment. I'm sorry if my English is not clear. I'm a little bit

714
01:43:09.330 --> 01:43:16.149
if the intersectionality is not, is useful for you is a concept useful for you

715
01:43:16.190 --> 01:43:17.910
on the

716
01:43:19.630 --> 01:43:22.330
yes, something like that.

717
01:43:23.590 --> 01:43:25.650
I don't know if it's clear. Yeah.

718
01:43:28.160 --> 01:43:41.799
Well, did you want to come here. Yes, but after for the pictures, one of the things when listening to you, intersectionality is at the root of everything.

719
01:43:42.380 --> 01:43:47.590
and critical race theory actually underpins it all for us.

720
01:43:48.020 --> 01:43:55.199
The other thing I want to say is that we've been listening to 3Â h almost of

721
01:43:55.280 --> 01:44:00.129
secondary trauma research. But most of us do here?

722
01:44:00.560 --> 01:44:11.340
How do we, as researchers, recognize that trauma that we, you know, when Carol was talking about the racism and all of that, we're absorbing it.

723
01:44:11.820 --> 01:44:28.700
Never mind, you know. How do we? Then, as research, get some relief? You've been listening to it. What do we do. you know, delivering a paper at a conference is easy. But Charlotte, Carol myself, and you

724
01:44:28.810 --> 01:44:36.740
we're all experiencing this. How do we, then, debrief? So I'm opening that question as well.

725
01:44:44.010 --> 01:44:46.310
Charlotte, do you want to add something?

726
01:44:46.770 --> 01:45:07.930
Charlotte CORCHETE: It's very interesting questions. yeah, I am. And I'm for in just kind of thinking, because when I was the same correspondent test and the field experiments that were showing discrimination. I my aim. It was at least to find some way to reduce discrimination

727
01:45:07.930 --> 01:45:18.540
Charlotte CORCHETE: erez agmoni It's out to make disappear, I guess, but at least to to reduce discrimination. And yeah, I think it's would be very important to think about 150

728
01:45:18.960 --> 01:45:33.659
Charlotte CORCHETE: kind of really actions to make a change, thanks to our research. So I'm very open to your your fault and advice about that as well.

729
01:45:36.690 --> 01:45:40.500
the role you went over to it.

730
01:45:42.240 --> 01:45:47.890
Carole Yerochewski:  the thank you. Thank you for

731
01:45:48.280 --> 01:45:54.920
Carole Yerochewski:  for asking that. And yes, it's difficult to

732
01:45:55.010 --> 01:46:00.420
Carole Yerochewski: to read all this This answers, but

733
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Carole Yerochewski:   What is important when you are acting a research, when you are

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Carole Yerochewski: doing it is

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Carole Yerochewski: to to think about the decisions of the results

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Carole Yerochewski: to to make understand how important it is to on this, on the because for some amount, the

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Carole Yerochewski: so trade unions.

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Carole Yerochewski: beginning to

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Carole Yerochewski: I to say to to understand there is

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something at stack, which is very important.

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Carole Yerochewski: But they are not measuring

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Carole Yerochewski: zoom systemic character. And

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Carole Yerochewski: oh, it's

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Carole Yerochewski:  profiling the work relations. Okay? And the importance of.

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Carole Yerochewski: I've been a real number of people. and also of women

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Carole Yerochewski: in the Union, instances in the Executive, in those or instances.

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Carole Yerochewski: and many people a real proportion of representation, because one

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Carole Yerochewski: trade union instance

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Carole Yerochewski: won't change anything

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Carole Yerochewski: so

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Carole Yerochewski: it's It's a struggle for the moment. and just to a girl is something who you can manage with the

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Carole Yerochewski: the subject you are

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Carole Yerochewski: you you you to to

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thank you. Thank you, I think, for a social scientist and sociologists in particular, the most important. Well, I think the minimum is to observe.

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to describe, to explain the reality of inequalities.

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Of course

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it's difficult to change sculptural

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a composite of the society, sexual racism, gender, inequalities, and so on. But you are to do

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good job

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in observant in describing, and after

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we have to be modest, I think so.

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It was a pleasure to help you and have a good day and a good end of this Congress.

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Carole Yerochewski: Thank you.

